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re: Sounds like Brooks Koepka is joining LIV

Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:04 pm to
Ancer is 31

He has maybe 3-4 more competitive years left before he tails off like most solid but average tour pros
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:06 pm to
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Some of the guys are SOL


That’s the gamble. And if they can’t make it through Q school or Korn Ferry, not much of a loss to the tour.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9581 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:15 pm to
The PGA whining about Saudi money is laughable.

Its like John Kerry flying around in his G6 to give speeches on global warming


Love how the PGA is finding money to keep players around. Its no diff than your employer denying you more pay until you get a better offer from a competitor. Clown show.

Old rich boomers trying to keep things the old way.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17202 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:21 pm to
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Ancer is 31

He has maybe 3-4 more competitive years left before he tails off like most solid but average tour pros



Cool! Now do a list of all the top 100 PGA players that fit that same demographic?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:30 pm to
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There have been some outlandish things said on both sides. Phil’s was the craziest and most ludicrous of all. 20 billion in digital assets


Agreed. I don’t know anything about NFTs, but is this what he is referring to? If so, it would almost be impossible to put a value on it, but there is SOME value.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:30 pm to
Is there any sport that hasn’t been ruined in the last 5 years?
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15657 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:31 pm to
Ancer is a bigger loss than a lot of the others that have defected.

He is in his prime. He just turned 31, playing the best golf of his career, has a big victory in the past year by winning a WGC event last August, and has been ranked inside the top 25 for most of the last two seasons.

He was also a member of the international team in the most recent President’s Cup in 2019, and is now ineligible for this year’s team.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:32 pm to
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Agreed. I don’t know anything about NFTs, but is this what he is referring to?


Not just NFT's
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:32 pm to
There is more?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111451 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:45 pm to
Mingo, my neutral friend that only is here to call out lies

How do you feel about Phil’s 20 billion digital assets comment?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:48 pm to
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How do you feel about Phil’s 20 billion digital assets comment?


I think it's bullshite
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111451 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:48 pm to
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I think it's bullshite


Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:51 pm to
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How do you feel about Phil’s 20 billion digital assets comment?


Literally sitting in a CLE right now about crypto and NFTs. There is definitely some value for NFTs. Phil’s claim is obviously insane. But there is some value.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:52 pm to
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Literally sitting in a CLE right now about crypto and NFTs. There is definitely some value for NFTs. Phil’s claim is obviously insane. But there is some value.


It's not just NFT's. The players don't own their media right so if Tiger self produced a documentary, he would have to pay the Tour for the rights to his shots.

But if he didn't play well enough one year (ignoring his lifetime exemption for example purposes) he wouldn't be on the Tour the next year.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36763 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:53 pm to
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But, to reiterate my point, you can’t freely let the LIV players back. It’s a slap to guys like Rory and Rahm and JT who turned down 100s of millions and stayed loyal



Are they also going to turn down the extra prize money that is resulting from the LIV defections?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:55 pm to
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It's not just NFT's. The players don't own their media right so if Tiger self produced a documentary, he would have to pay the Tour for the rights to his shots.


Interesting. Clearly not 20BB. But certainly worth something.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111451 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:56 pm to
If you gave players their media rights, would it not greatly diminish the value of the contracts in the medias eyes, thus ultimately leading to a huge reduction in pay? I would think there is a reason why every organization doesn’t give the rights to the players
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:59 pm to
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If you gave players their media rights, would it not greatly diminish the value of the contracts in the medias eyes, thus ultimately leading to a huge reduction in pay?


I havent completely fleshed it out, but why would it from a sponsors perspective.

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I would think there is a reason why every organization doesn’t give the rights to the players


Because they're worth money and they sell them for money
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111451 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 5:30 pm to
From what I gather the stars would be better off owning their own media rights, but 90% of tour players would come out with less if the rights were owned Individually
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 5:50 pm to
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From what I gather the stars would be better off owning their own media rights,


This whole ordeal has been about the stars the whole time
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