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re: Someone please explain the Penn St. hype going into this season.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:14 pm to TexasTiger08
Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:14 pm to TexasTiger08
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Pray tell, who was better than ND other than Ohio State? I can think of maybe 1 team.
lol exactly
If everyone is overrated, who the hell you puttin up there instead?
ND splattered IU, beat UGA and Penn State.
That’s a good playoff run.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 2:16 pm
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:17 pm to TexasTiger08
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Pray tell, who was better than ND other than Ohio State? I can think of maybe 1 team.
I think it’s fair to speculate that Oregon and Texas may have beaten ND
Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:47 pm to RolltidePA
quote:Kind of underselling here that the "one defensive lineman" was their, by far, best defensive player and #3 pick.
They were one drive away from the title game last year and pretty much return their entire team minus one defensive lineman.
They also lost their best offensive player in Warren, the #14 pick, all American, and Mackey winner.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 3:04 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Please explain why Allar is going to all of a sudden become Joe Burrow.
Interesting tidbit
Allar 2024
262/394 (66.5%) 3,327 yards 24-8 TD/INT
302 Yards 3.1 avg 6 TDs on the ground
Burrow 2018
219/379 (57.8%) 2,894 yards 16-5 TD/INT
399 yards 3.1 avg 7 TDs on the ground
The real question is - How the hell did Joe Burrow become Joe Burrow
Burrow 2019
402-527 (76.3%) 5,671 yards 60-6 TD/INT
268 Yards 3.2 avg 5 TDs on the ground
Posted on 8/20/25 at 7:00 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I think it’s fair to speculate that Oregon and Texas may have beaten ND
Worthy of a discussion. I know transitive property is bad, but ND did beat UGa, who beat Texas twice. And ND played Ohio State better than Oregon did a couple weeks prior.
To suggest that ND was some overrated and paper tiger last year is false.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:00 am to grizzlylongcut
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Please explain why James Franklin will suddenly do something that he’s never come close to doing.
I do remember when we used the same reasoning about Les Miles and Ed Orgeron. Now I feel naive for thinking your reasoning is sound.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:10 am to grizzlylongcut
The media is made up of mostly pedos, pedo state is their team
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:19 am to TexasTiger08
Replace Franklin with Ryan Day and PSU goes undefeated and wins the national championship.
That’s why people are down on Franklin. He’s an awful game day coach. PSU can overcome his FUBARs against inferior opponents, but against the likes of Ohio State, not a chance. His record against top tier teams is abysmal.
That’s why people are down on Franklin. He’s an awful game day coach. PSU can overcome his FUBARs against inferior opponents, but against the likes of Ohio State, not a chance. His record against top tier teams is abysmal.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:20 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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I think it’s fair to speculate that Oregon and Texas may have beaten ND
Notre Dame beat UGA who beat Texas TWICE, one of those at home. I know transitive property blah blah but ND earned it on the field
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:27 am to H-Town Tiger
I may have missed it in this thread but adding DC Jim Knowles should be a huge addition. His track record is quite strong and PSU should have the talent to make it work.
Are they over hyped? Probably. Is it as unjustified as prior years, probably not IMO
Are they over hyped? Probably. Is it as unjustified as prior years, probably not IMO
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:37 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:Do you seriously think ND holds UGA to 10 points with Carson Beck out there, and not an underprepared backup making his first start? Hilarious
Notre Dame beat UGA who beat Texas TWICE, one of those at home. I know transitive property blah blah but ND earned it on the field
The only time ND is going to beat a UGA is when the UGA is facing something that drastic. Asterisk the frick out of that win
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 8:41 am
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:44 am to RemouladeSawce
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Do you seriously think ND holds UGA to 10 points with Carson Beck out there, and not a comically underprepared backup making his first start? Hilarious
Nice strawman but I don’t care I only know what DID happen and the discussion was whether Texas was better than Notre Dame and didn’t the backup play in the SECCG which UGA won?
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The only time ND is going to beat a UGA is when the UGA is facing something that drastic
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:46 am to grizzlylongcut
The hype is bc both of their RBs and their QB would have been drafted this yr fairly high and all are coming back plus others on defense that could have went pro ..kinda like a poor mans O$U from last yr when they had like 10 players stay who would have gone high ..BUT ,I agree Ped St is not Ohio St
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:59 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:Which was ND lucking into drawing a UGA team with a backup QB making his first ever start. It’s not a strawman when it’s by far the strongest variable responsible for the outcome of the game
I only know what DID happen
Don’t overthink this. It’s really not that hard
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 9:04 am
Posted on 8/21/25 at 9:20 am to TheWalrus
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They got to the semifinals last year and return most of their key players, not hard to understand.
Yea, but they also lost to every good team they played, like they usually do.
It's a bit of a lazy take in my opinion to just have them at the top. Basically because there are so many unknowns at the other powerhouses, they are starting at the top by default. They return guys that have never beaten an elite team in their college careers, but at least they're returning guys we've seen play. They'll make the playoffs and be the 7th or 8th best team in the country at the end of the day.
When is the last time Penn State finished ranked ahead of where they started? I'm not sure that they ever have under Franklin tbh.
They have 1 top 10 recruiting class in the last 5 years- that's why they lose when they play a team with a pulse. They don't have the overall talent that traditional recruiting powers do. It gets masked because they win the games they're supposed to
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 9:25 am
Posted on 8/21/25 at 9:21 am to TheDeathValley
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The real question is - How the hell did Joe Burrow become Joe Burrow
That's not really a question. He had elite weapons, and in his senior year was finally married with a playcaller that ran a modern offense and took advantage of his skillset.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 9:29 am to bad93ex
They’ll be in the playoffs
Looks like they have a bye before getting a white out night game against Oregon. If they win that one they’ll coast to the playoffs even if they drop the OSU game (which they have another bye prior to) and get upset in another. Very favorable schedule
Looks like they have a bye before getting a white out night game against Oregon. If they win that one they’ll coast to the playoffs even if they drop the OSU game (which they have another bye prior to) and get upset in another. Very favorable schedule
Posted on 8/21/25 at 9:49 am to RemouladeSawce
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And they subsequently fell short to a team that proved they had no business in the championship
And ND beat the SEC champ...in SEC territory. So did the SEC have no business in the playoffs?
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:01 am to grizzlylongcut
They return practically everyone from a team that was one QB mistake away from making the championship and have an insanely easy schedule.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:09 am to RemouladeSawce
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Which was ND lucking into drawing a UGA team with a backup QB making his first ever start
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It’s not a strawman when it’s by far the strongest variable responsible for the outcome of the game
You asked if I thought ND holds UGA to 10 with Carson Beck and then added “hilarious”. That’s the strawman.
I simply said they beat UGa who beat Texas twice so I’m not willing to say Texas was better than ND.
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