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re: Some more Steph Curry ridiculousness
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:06 pm to Iron Lion
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:06 pm to Iron Lion
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Curry is a great player but guys can't actually defend anymore. You can't hand check, you can't pressure him 3/4 court. Curry wouldn't have near the stats had he played 25 years ago.
2015-2016 Team PPG: 102.1
1990-1991 Team PPG: 106.3
2015-2016 Pace: 95.7
1990-1991 Pace: 97.8
Don't be dumb.
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:06 pm to WestCoastAg
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what? did you not look at the stats? steph has a higher TS%, eFG%, more made threes, a higher PER, a higher ORtg, and more WS/48. the only legit thing micheal has the nod over him is he was worth 3 more points per 100 possessions
This isn't really fair. And I'm far from a Jordan fanatic.
It's just a different game today. Years of compiling analytics now have revealed to us the importance of taking a three point shot over a long two. That's information that they simply didn't have back then.
If MJ played today, he would play with the knowledge we have today and he would've worked a lot harder on his 3-point shooting and he would've been a lot better at it than he was.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:07 pm to Iron Lion
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Curry wouldn't have near the stats had he played 25 years ago
As I always say, go back and watch 1980s games on ESPN Classic. No chance you will come back and say defense was better then compared to now, it's not even close.
The sophistication of defensive schemes are soooo much better now. Not to mention with the illegal defense rules as they were back then, today's Curry would go bonkers on defenses 25 years ago.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:07 pm to Goldrush25
But he didn't, and he wasn't.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:07 pm to vettegc
quote:Watching old replays of those Celtics-Lakers NBA Finals are literally LOL funny to watch how little defense they played.
This is way overblown. Look-up the average scores in the 80s and early 90s. Teams were scoring more and much more. So how can anyone say defense is worse now?
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:11 pm to WestCoastAg
Can you add wilts stats in there?
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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what year is this? when did he hit 111, 3s? or hit 50% of them?
yea, these stats are misleading. The only year Jordan hit 50% from 3 was the year he only played 17 games. The 111 three s was a different year.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:12 pm to vettegc
It's a combination of their career best.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:12 pm to shel311
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The sophistication of defensive schemes are soooo much better now. Not to mention with the illegal defense rules as they were back then, today's Curry would go bonkers on defenses 25 years ago.
when people say he can't handle the defenses, i think its more of the abuse, hits, and punishment he would get from defenders and not the actual scheme.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:13 pm to td01241
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But he didn't, and he wasn't.
Well that's fine.
Curry didn't play in MJ's era either so it's not fair to say what he would've done back then. What's he's doing now only applies to this era.
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:15 pm to Goldrush25
Yes it is You can only use how good a player is. You can't say well if he played then he wouldve been better at this. Where does it end? If Steph played in Jordans era he wouldve eaten more and benched more so he could have delt with all that hand checkin!
You can only use how good a player is. You can't say well if he played then he wouldve been better at this. Where does it end? If Steph played in Jordans era he wouldve eaten more and benched more so he could have delt with all that hand checkin!
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:15 pm to Iron Lion
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The rules changes have allowed this to happen. Don't get me wrong, Curry is a great player but guys can't actually defend anymore. You can't hand check, you can't pressure him 3/4 court. Curry wouldn't have near the stats had he played 25 years ago.
Defense was actually at an all time low 25-30 years ago. Maybe you're thinking of the NFL?
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:16 pm to htran90
quote:Fair point.
when people say he can't handle the defenses, i think its more of the abuse, hits, and punishment he would get from defenders and not the actual scheme.
But to those folks I'd say Mark Price, Spud Webb, and Muggsy Bogues played in that era and handled the punishment, I don't see tangible evidence to suggest Curry couldn't do it either.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:19 pm to htran90
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when people say he can't handle the defenses, i think its more of the abuse, hits, and punishment he would get from defenders and not the actual scheme.
Not everyone played defense like the bad boys.
Go watch highlights, those defenses were softer than puppy shite.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:20 pm to shel311
It's got nothing to do with sophisticated defensive schemes or ppg for teams then and now. It's about how physical the games used to be. Celtics, Knicks, Pacers and even the Hornets would have slapped Curry around. The Bad Boys would have put him in a body bag.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:21 pm to More beer please
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Watch highlights
I watched them real time young buck
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:22 pm to Iron Lion
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It's about how physical the games used to be
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:22 pm to Iron Lion
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It's about how physical the games used to be. Celtics, Knicks, Pacers and even the Hornets would have slapped Curry around. The Bad Boys would have put him in a body bag.
This is nostalgic foolishness.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:22 pm to td01241
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You can't say well if he played then he wouldve been better at this
Why not? Shooting is a skill. Any NBA player can learn to shoot if they put in the time.
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If Steph played in Jordans era he wouldve eaten more and benched more so he could have delt with all that hand checkin!
I don't care how much weight Curry lifts, he will never become the athlete that MJ was. Ever.
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:23 pm to td01241
Did you people just start watching basketball?
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