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re: So whose more clutch kd or king james
Posted on 2/24/12 at 3:54 pm to sgallo3
Posted on 2/24/12 at 3:54 pm to sgallo3
yea.. I repeated what you said because that's still the broad definition of a perimeter player.
Congratulations on being a douche. Does this make you feel good about yourself?
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Can you read?
Congratulations on being a douche. Does this make you feel good about yourself?
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Posted on 2/24/12 at 4:07 pm to jturn17
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Also just as an aside I think the word "cluth" is silly. All a player can do is get into the best position possible to make a shot. Sometimes they go in. Sometimes they don't. If a player gets an open look at the basket, that's pretty much all I ask for from a late game shot.
I agree with this, players don't just get better at the end, if they really only play their best at the end, someone should teach them how to be there best the whole game!
Posted on 2/24/12 at 4:16 pm to Tiger1242
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I agree with this, players don't just get better at the end, if they really only play their best at the end, someone should teach them how to be there best the whole game!
I had an argument the other day with someone, that of course said Lebron isn't clutch. I asked him would you rather him score 50 in the first 3 quarters and go 0-5 in the 4th
or
go 1-13 14 pts in the first 3 quarters and score 10 or so in the forth?
His response was typical, scoring ONLY matters in the 4th quarter
Posted on 2/24/12 at 4:39 pm to texastiger38
Well it could be argued that during the NBA regular season teams don't really try until the 4th quarter
I've heard that a few times
I've heard that a few times
Posted on 2/24/12 at 5:59 pm to sgallo3
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Well it could be argued that during the NBA regular season teams don't really try until the 4th quarter I've heard that a few times
With all due respect, don't ever listen to anything those people say about the NBA.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:20 pm to shel311
Bill Simmons?
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:21 pm to sgallo3
quote:You're saying not a perimeter player, he's saying he is a perimter player. How is that the same thing?
You say I'm wrong then say the same thing I said. Genius
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Perimeter is the 3 point line. Perimeter player would be someone who gets a majority of their points from >16 feet out. Lebron doesn't do that
Lebron- 7 of his 27.9 points, 25.1% come from outside 16 feet.
Durant- 7.1 of his 27.7 points, 26.0% come form outside 16 feet.
You're hanging your hat on less than a 1% difference.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:24 pm to shel311
For further reference, Tony Parker and Derrick Rose have substantially less than 25% of their points come from outside of 16 feet.
Their point guards. I don't think anyone would say a point guard is not a perimeter player.
Their point guards. I don't think anyone would say a point guard is not a perimeter player.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:30 pm to shel311
Shel, this thread was tailored made for you
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:33 pm to shel311
16-23 Feet Lebron is shooting 39% compared to Durant 50% according to ur link
thats a pretty substantial difference.
Durant shoots more 3s which drops his overall FG%. but his effective FG% from 3 is still 55%
those stats pretty much back up what i have said the entire thread exactly.
all i could use to research at work was my phone
thats a pretty substantial difference.
Durant shoots more 3s which drops his overall FG%. but his effective FG% from 3 is still 55%
those stats pretty much back up what i have said the entire thread exactly.
all i could use to research at work was my phone
This post was edited on 2/24/12 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:35 pm to SPEEDY
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Shel, this thread was tailored made for you
It's like someone said, Shel's been working too hard at work. I think he needs to reduce his production by 400%.
But how? How can we get Shel to stop working so hard?
Somebody knew the answer.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:36 pm to shel311
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Their point guards.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:38 pm to sgallo3
quote:I mean, I answered teh question specifically to how you answered it.
16-23 Feet Lebron is shooting 39% compared to Durant 50% according to ur link
thats a pretty substantial difference.
You said a perimeter player is a player who gets the majority of his points from outside 16 feet.
I gave you the facts, it's a wash, almost the same.
Not trying to be an arse at all, but that kinda 100% proves you wrong, no? It's a direct answer to your direct question.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:38 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
FML!!!
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:39 pm to sgallo3
quote:No, they say the exact opposite of what you said, actually.
those stats pretty much back up what i have said the entire thread exactly.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:45 pm to shel311
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I mean, I answered teh question specifically to how you answered it.
You said a perimeter player is a player who gets the majority of his points from outside 16 feet.
I gave you the facts, it's a wash, almost the same.
Not trying to be an arse at all, but that kinda 100% proves you wrong, no? It's a direct answer to your direct question.
you skewed the stats... you included free throws as inside points even if they came after a 3 point attempt
This post was edited on 2/24/12 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:48 pm to sgallo3
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16-23 Feet Lebron is shooting 39% compared to Durant 50% according to ur link
So now you're saying 1 is a perimeter player and the other isn't because 1 is shooting well from long 2s and the other isn't over a 34 game stretch?
What the hell is going on in this thread now?
Here's some other fun yet completely meaningless stats.. LBJ is 41% from 3 this season to Durant's 36%
Last season:
15-23ft:
LBJ - 45%
Durant - 40%
3pt
LBJ - 33%
Durant 35%
But all of that meant nothing because it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they're both perimeter players.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:49 pm to sgallo3
True Stats Points Scored Per Game (Minus Free Throws)
Durant
9 Within 9 Feet Per Game
12.7 Outside 9 Feet Per Game
9.7 Outside 16 Feet Per Game
Lebron
12.2 Within 9 Feet PPG
8.8 Outside 9 Feet PPG
7.2 Outside 16 Feet PPG
Durant
9 Within 9 Feet Per Game
12.7 Outside 9 Feet Per Game
9.7 Outside 16 Feet Per Game
Lebron
12.2 Within 9 Feet PPG
8.8 Outside 9 Feet PPG
7.2 Outside 16 Feet PPG
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:49 pm to sgallo3
quote:I provided stats exactly as you said. I skewed absolutely nothing. You said majority of points come from 16 feet out. I gave you points from 16 feet out compared to total points.
you skewed the stats
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you included free throws as inside points even if they came after a 3 point attempt
You honestly, i mean honestly, think the free throws off of a 3 point attempt would make a statistically significant difference in those numbers?
But to entertain your thought. Lebron shoots 1.4 more shots from 16-23 feet. I'd be willing to guarantee you that he gets more free throws attempts from getting fouled in that territory than KD does from getting fouled on 3 pointers. 3 point shots getting fouled are pretty rare, especially on 1 player.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:50 pm to jturn17
quote:
15-23ft:
LBJ - 45%
Durant - 40%
3pt
LBJ - 33%
Durant 35%
So, this means last season Lebron was a perimeter player and KD was not a perimeter player, if I have the math right.
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