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Posted on 2/24/12 at 10:51 am to Louie T
quote:Never.
I'll never understand people
I get what's going on, just blind hatred. But yea, I'll never understand how people can be so blinded by things like that.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 10:52 am to shel311
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But why would you want Durant in an Iso and not Lebron? Lebron is more unstoppable
I don't know about that. Refs seem to swallow their whistle in game-winning situations on drives to the lane.
Durant does a better job of making his own shots.
In a last possession shot situation I might rather have Durant, but we'll have to see how he does in the playoffs this year
Posted on 2/24/12 at 10:55 am to shel311
Lebron's career FG% in the playoffs is 4 points higher than KD's.
KD's drop off in FG% from regular season to playoffs is twice as high as Lebron's. KD shoots 42% from the field in the playoffs.
At this age, Lebron had already led a team MUCH MUCH MUCH worse than KD's to the Finals. KD hasn't come close to getting to the Finals.
Again, what are we basing this on? Anything at all?
KD's drop off in FG% from regular season to playoffs is twice as high as Lebron's. KD shoots 42% from the field in the playoffs.
At this age, Lebron had already led a team MUCH MUCH MUCH worse than KD's to the Finals. KD hasn't come close to getting to the Finals.
Again, what are we basing this on? Anything at all?
Posted on 2/24/12 at 10:56 am to sgallo3
quote:Except that he actually doesn't according to the facts(again, other than the small 30 games of clutch sample size this year).
Durant does a better job of making his own shots
Posted on 2/24/12 at 10:59 am to shel311
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James has so many more, i mean wayyyyyyy more clutch playoff moments.
He also has more...I mean wayyyy more playoff moments where he has shite the bed.
So far, KD has not disappointed in his performances.
It's not even close.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:00 am to shel311
quote:
shel311
Show me all the stats in the world, I don't care: From what I've seen, The Bron can't hit the clutch shot like KD. If you didn't have the bulls series last year, you'd have absolutely no argument at all.
I'm also referring to The Bron from Miami, not Cleveland. The Bron completely disappears in the 4th since he moved south, whereas KD takes the rock and is assertive.
It's like saying, "man Robert Horry has a better shooting PCT than MJ in the fourth quarter"... Well yeah, you're going to when you're taking much fewer shots.
This post was edited on 2/24/12 at 11:01 am
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:01 am to TK421
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So far, KD has not disappointed in his performances.
It's not even close
It's not close?
Again, at KD's age, Lebron had already had one of the most epic clutch playoff performances ever, AND had gone to the NBA Finals.
KD has done a whole lot of nothing in the playoffs.
How is that not close in favor of KD? Honestly, how?
You're right that it's not close, but it's easily in favor of Lebron by the age of 23. How is that debateable?
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:03 am to HT713
quote:
From what I've seen
quote:Your eyes must be horrendous.
whereas KD takes the rock and is assertive.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:03 am to HT713
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Show me all the stats in the world, I don't care: From what I've seen
Disagreeing with the facts, that's never a good sign for your argument.
quote:Did you see last year's playoffs against Boston and Chicago? When has KD ever done things like that, regular season or playoffs? Tell me, i'll gladly concede when you show me the games where he's done that consistently like Lebron was doing.
The Bron can't hit the clutch shot like KD
quote:Celtics Series. 2009 Orlando. 2006 Detroit. Yea, no argument at all.
If you didn't have the bulls series last year, you'd have absolutely no argument at all.
What's KD's playoffs argument?
quote:Boston series.
I'm also referring to The Bron from Miami, not Cleveland
Chicago series
quote:Yea, it's actually nothing like that at all.
It's like saying, "man Robert Horry has a better shooting PCT than MJ in the fourth quarter"... Well yeah, you're going to when you're taking much fewer shots.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:03 am to shel311
Durant has won the scoring title 2 years in a row.
If you can take the lane away from Lebron like the mavs did, he seems unwilling to pull up and shoot unless he isnt well guarded. That isn't gonna happen in a clutch situation in the playoffs very often.
Durants wingspan and release allows him to shoot over people more effectively
If you can take the lane away from Lebron like the mavs did, he seems unwilling to pull up and shoot unless he isnt well guarded. That isn't gonna happen in a clutch situation in the playoffs very often.
Durants wingspan and release allows him to shoot over people more effectively
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:03 am to shel311
quote:
Lebron by the age of 23
The Eastern conference was laughable the season he went to the finals. HE was amazing, there's not question, but the Pistons team he played in the conference Finals wouldn't have beat the 4th seed in the West.
Need proof? Look at how they did against the Spurs.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:04 am to shel311
quote:
, AND had gone to the NBA Finals
AND lost! You can bring up the prince's playoff losses all you want. quote:
KD has done a whole lot of nothing in the playoffs.
Yeah, carrying his team to the western conference finals is a whole lot of nothing.
quote:
You're right that it's not close, but it's easily in favor of Lebron by the age of 23.
Who do you think wins a ring at the earlier part of their career? How is that even debatable?
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:04 am to Louie T
quote:ALL the talk in last year's playoffs was how KD couldn't even get open to get the ball in big situations.
Your eyes must be horrendous
And guys were all over the place talking about how Westbrook was taking the big shots, not even KD. ANd the reason was because KD was doing a terrible job of getting open.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:05 am to shel311
quote:
James has so many more, i mean wayyyyyyy more clutch playoff moments.
True, but that is kind of a flawed argument.
LBJ is in his 9th season. KD is in his 5th.
Heck, Jeter has 240 homers in his career. Prince Fielder has 230. Jeter isn't the better power hitter.
I'm not saying KD is better, but that's a weak way of looking at it.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:05 am to sgallo3
quote:In theory. In actual practice, no.
Durants wingspan and release allows him to shoot over people more effectively
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:05 am to TK421
quote:
KD is much more clutch than prince james.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:05 am to shel311
It's like people go out of their way to say the stupidest things possible.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:06 am to HT713
quote:Now tell me about Lebron's supporting cast.
but the Pistons team he played in the conference Finals wouldn't have beat the 4th seed in the West.
The Pistons as a team were way far ahead of Cleveland as a team. Now compare that to all the help KD has going up against the Mavs last year, and losing in 5. OKC is closer in talent to DAL than that Cleveland team was to Detroit. Lebron got the job done though, KD didn't.
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