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re: So whose more clutch kd or king james
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:51 pm to shel311
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:51 pm to shel311
True Stats Points Scored Per Game (Minus Free Throws)
Durant
9 Within 9 Feet Per Game
12.7 Outside 9 Feet Per Game
9.7 Outside 16 Feet Per Game
Lebron
12.2 Within 9 Feet PPG
8.8 Outside 9 Feet PPG
7.2 Outside 16 Feet PPG
So Lebron Scores 3.4 More around the rim than Outside... Durant 3.7 more outside than inside
thats a difference of 7.1. plenty to show a difference between their styles
Durant
9 Within 9 Feet Per Game
12.7 Outside 9 Feet Per Game
9.7 Outside 16 Feet Per Game
Lebron
12.2 Within 9 Feet PPG
8.8 Outside 9 Feet PPG
7.2 Outside 16 Feet PPG
So Lebron Scores 3.4 More around the rim than Outside... Durant 3.7 more outside than inside
thats a difference of 7.1. plenty to show a difference between their styles
This post was edited on 2/24/12 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:53 pm to sgallo3
quote:
Durant
9.7 Outside 16 Feet Per Game
It's 7.25.
2.3 makes from 16-23. 1.7 makes from 3 point land.
Not even sure why it's gotten to this point. It doesn't matter where you score from, it's where you start.
Answer this, Derrick Rose and Tony parker and those guys, are they perimeter players? If not, what are they, post players?
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:54 pm to shel311
quote:
It's 7.25.
2.3 makes from 16-23. 1.7 makes from 3 point land.
dude, 3 pointers are worth 3 points each
i'll do the math for you...
1.7*3=5.1
2.3*2=4.6
That is 9.7 Points
This post was edited on 2/24/12 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:55 pm to sgallo3
quote:
True Stats Points Scored Per Game (Minus Free Throws)
Durant
9 Within 9 Feet Per Game
12.7 Outside 9 Feet Per Game
9.7 Outside 16 Feet Per Game
That's 31 points not counting free throws. Durant doesn't even average that many ppg dude.
Again, 25% of Lebron's points come from 16 feet out. 25.9% of KD's points come from 16 feet out. Those are the numbers man, not sure what else to tell you.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:55 pm to sgallo3
quote:Touche LOL.
dude, 3 pointers are worth 3 points each
Now all my data is fricked. FML again.
Nonetheless, my point still stands.
This post was edited on 2/24/12 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:56 pm to shel311
i think your brain is melting down...
outside 16 feet is also outside 9 feet
outside 16 feet is also outside 9 feet
This post was edited on 2/24/12 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:57 pm to sgallo3
quote:
True Stats Points Scored Per Game (Minus Free Throws)
Durant
9 Within 9 Feet Per Game
12.7 Outside 9 Feet Per Game
9.7 Outside 16 Feet Per Game
Lebron
12.2 Within 9 Feet PPG
8.8 Outside 9 Feet PPG
7.2 Outside 16 Feet PPG
Why are you still trying to make this argument? He's still a perimeter player, less so this season because he's finally playing in a mid post a bit. But the majority of his possessions begin from the perimeter. That means he's a perimeter player.
Is he a predominantly an outside scorer? No, but he's still a perimeter player. He stands in the corner a lot. He brings the ball up. He rarely posts up in the low block. I don't know why you're being so stubborn about this. It's okay to be wrong about something. Just move on.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:58 pm to jturn17
ok then change my argument in my wording to outside scorer from perimeter player.
outside scorer is what i was trying to convey when i typed perimeter
outside scorer is what i was trying to convey when i typed perimeter
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:58 pm to sgallo3
quote:I was never talking about 9 feet.
outside 16 feet is also outside 9 feet
i'll go a different route, again, Tony parker/Derrick Rose, perimeter players?
Remember they are point guards lol.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:58 pm to shel311
shel u play any 2k12? i've been messing around with online association but the computer is hard as hell on superstar
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:59 pm to sgallo3
quote:
ok then change my argument in my wording to outside scorer from perimeter player.
outside scorer is what i was trying to convey when i typed perimeter
Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:59 pm to sgallo3
quote:
ok then change my argument in my wording to outside scorer from perimeter player.
outside scorer is what i was trying to convey when i typed perimeter
Fine, but again what does this have to do with this thread anyway? I never understood that.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 7:00 pm to shel311
quote:
Tony parker/Derrick Rose, perimeter players?
i should have said outside scorers to be more clear in what i meant and not confuse it with the term they use for guards and SFs
This post was edited on 2/24/12 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 2/24/12 at 7:00 pm to sgallo3
quote:As much as I can, which isn't much with 8 month old twins lol.
shel u play any 2k12? i've been messing around with online association but the computer is hard as hell on superstar
I see you online all the time. We tried an online association but there was too much shite wrong.
Offline or whatever against the cpu, I just play on All Star, I find that is super realistic.
i've been doing, when i have time, a ton of the Online Match Play with friends, that shite is addictive. Only problem, the last 3 or 4 nights I've tried, I'm the only one who gets disconnected in the 1st minute every time. No clue why. Sucks.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 7:01 pm to sgallo3
quote:
i should have said outside scorers to be more clear in what i meant and not confuse it with the term they use for guards and SFs
You know how much time we wasted where we coulda been discussing 2k, thanks to your word usage malfunction??
Posted on 2/24/12 at 7:01 pm to jturn17
quote:
Fine, but again what does this have to do with this thread anyway? I never understood that.
we strayed from the thread and i said i might would like to have durant in a 1 possession clutch situation because he is a better outside scorer and refs tend to swallow their whistles in the paint in those situations
Posted on 2/24/12 at 7:03 pm to shel311
quote:
You know how much time we wasted where we coulda been discussing 2k, thanks to your word usage malfunction??
its ok i needed to waste some time at work anyway!
Posted on 2/24/12 at 7:04 pm to Mercy Percy
LeBron is not clutch.
he has RECENTLY disappeared in the 4th quarter in the playoffs.
He did well his rookie year, but he cant seem to find his rhythm on the Heat. Maybe they are going to be so much better than the other teams that he wont feel the tightness. I think he either choked or was VERY unlucky in the playoffs last year.
DWade is the man. not LeBron. LeBron is going to leave Miami if he does not get a ring soon with DWade. His contract will end soon.
he has RECENTLY disappeared in the 4th quarter in the playoffs.
He did well his rookie year, but he cant seem to find his rhythm on the Heat. Maybe they are going to be so much better than the other teams that he wont feel the tightness. I think he either choked or was VERY unlucky in the playoffs last year.
DWade is the man. not LeBron. LeBron is going to leave Miami if he does not get a ring soon with DWade. His contract will end soon.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 7:06 pm to ottothewise
quote:Why do we ignore when DWade is shitty and not clutch?
DWade is the man. not LeBron
Posted on 2/24/12 at 7:09 pm to sgallo3
quote:
durant in a 1 possession clutch situation because he is a better outside scorer and refs tend to swallow their whistles in the paint in those situations
True, but that hasn't been apparent in their career late game shooting percentages.
And when you look at the outside shooting percentages I posted earlier, the overall difference isn't as great as the perception of their abilities would lead you to believe.
I think Durant has a better chance of making any individual shot, but if LeBron has made a few already, I think I'd pick him. He seems more streaky.
Though to be honest, I think I'd pass on both of these guys with 1 shot and pick Melo.
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