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re: So what does the NFL do here?

Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:23 am to
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16706 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:23 am to
He can pretty much pay his Dr to say whatever he wants him to say
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19040 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:25 am to
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Tua is a grown arse man. If doctors say he can play, it's up to him.


You mean his dad. Pretty sure Tua takes care of the family ans his dad is huge driving force in that.


Not anyone's business. Tua is a grown arse man.
Posted by solus
Member since Dec 2019
3568 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:28 am to
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Tua should walk, have a good life and sit up in the booth calling games. He has a TV face.


Smooth way of saying you would frick him.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9232 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:30 am to
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Tua should walk, have a good life and sit up in the booth calling games. He has a TV face.


Smooth way of saying you would frick him.


He's really not my type, also I'm not into dudes
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53764 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:30 am to
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So you want boxing to say they aren't allowed to compete because they've had concussions in the past?


That’s not a bad idea, if only boxing had one governing body worldwide that everybody respected… the NBA doesn’t allow players to play if they have certain medical issues.
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
13008 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:34 am to
Hate to be crass but the way Tua leads with his head every time it's no wonder he's concussion prone.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19040 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:45 am to
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That’s not a bad idea, if only boxing had one governing body worldwide that everybody respected… the NBA doesn’t allow players to play if they have certain medical issues.



Doctors don't clear them, I presume, in this instance.

Again, if doctors clear him, he should be able to make the call himself.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70940 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:00 am to
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Tua is a grown arse man. If doctors say he can play, it's up to him.


I don’t disagree with you. I also know there is no way the NFL wants to keep trotting him out there after this has happened multiple times. The billion dollar corporation tends to win these kinds of things. Hence the thread.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36434 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:20 am to
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The NFL has a stake in Tua not turning into a vegetable in five years, so in theory, they could choose to act in their own best interest and never medically clear him again.


There are specific benchmarks in the clearing process, they can't just make shite up on the fly
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19406 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:46 am to
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So you want boxing to say they aren't allowed to compete, despite being medically cleared, because they've had concussions in the past?


Nowhere in my post did I say that. I simply stated that boxers often hang around too long for their own good.

It is the very nature of boxing to be concussed from time to time, whether it's in the gym during sparring---although that is minimized with headgear and larger gloves with more padding, or in the ring under sanctioned bouts.

But you can't argue that boxers are probably the most affected by taking head blows during their careers more so than any other athlete.

The list of boxers suffering from pugilistic dementia as they age is staggeringly long. One of the worst cases is Wilfred Benitez who won a world title against Antonio Cervantes at age 17 in 1976 after he started his pro career at age 15.

By 1989, just 12 years later and not yet 30, it was clear he was suffering from degenerative brain disease and has only gotten worse since then. He's now 66 and is just a shell of what he once was, needing 24/7 care by his family members.

To me, no amount of money and fame is worth that price to pay.

Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3128 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:59 am to
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There are specific benchmarks in the clearing process, they can't just make shite up on the fly

Serious question, were those benchmarks established with the NFLPA? If not, why wouldn’t the league be able to change them whenever they want?
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20780 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:10 am to
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I'd play out the rest of the year....maybe even sit the bench and collect the 40-ish mil for this year then hang them up

Not really how his contract is set up. Per Over the Cap, he received $42M at signing (gets to keep that even if he retires now). His base salary this year is just over $1M (maybe league minimum). His big money (other than bonus) doesn't really kick in until next year. $25M in 2025, $39M in 2026, $31M in 2027 & $41M in 2028...plus the bonus money.

$42M is still life changing money and he should retire now. Hopefully he doesn't try to chase the bigger pay days and stays around too much longer to cash that check
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:13 am to
Posted by DUKE87
Covington, LA
Member since May 2021
1614 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:14 am to
This falls on the neuro doctor. Didn’t the doctor say it wasn’t recommended he play again previously? End of day it’s the player responsibility as well.
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5199 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:26 am to
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I have heard him say he hasn’t spent a nickel of his contract money since entering the league. Has been living off his endorsement $$$.



Marshawn Lynch did the same thing
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3670 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:42 am to
NFL is such a joke.. I'm supposed to shed tears for this millionaire because he got a concussion playing a game. He wasn't smart enough to slide or get down. There's soldiers dying for our country who may $25,000 a year. Same for a cop or a firefighter who put their actual lives on the line. shite look at the MMA fighter who make crumbs compared to football players. I'm pretty sure they get CTE too. They'll turn this Tua situation into the next big social justice issue. "Football players are oppressed" "Modern day slavery"
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36434 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:45 am to
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Serious question, were those benchmarks established with the NFLPA? If not, why wouldn’t the league be able to change them whenever they want?

It’s part of the collectively bargained agreement between the players and league.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4877 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:58 am to
It absolutely should be his decision, but one would hope he would stop thinking like a competitor and an athlete and start thinking in terms of “Do I really want to risk becoming a drooling vegetable pissing through a catheter and crapping in diapers before I’m 50?”
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4450 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:08 pm to
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$42M is still life changing money and he should retire now.


That is his signing bonus this year. He made $30M in his first four years in the league. He's already earned $72M in his career. He should be fine financially if he chose to retire now. If not, then he's an idiot.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66530 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:18 pm to
The NFL is now marketed to beta cucks and housewives. Thats why you see this melodrama silliness anytime somebody gets hurt. It’ll be sarcastaball very soon.
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