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re: So what does the NFL do here?
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:23 am to CatfishJohn
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:23 am to CatfishJohn
He can pretty much pay his Dr to say whatever he wants him to say
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:25 am to LSUPERMAN
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Tua is a grown arse man. If doctors say he can play, it's up to him.
You mean his dad. Pretty sure Tua takes care of the family ans his dad is huge driving force in that.
Not anyone's business. Tua is a grown arse man.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:28 am to CU_Tigers4life
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Tua should walk, have a good life and sit up in the booth calling games. He has a TV face.
Smooth way of saying you would frick him.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:30 am to solus
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Tua should walk, have a good life and sit up in the booth calling games. He has a TV face.
Smooth way of saying you would frick him.
He's really not my type, also I'm not into dudes
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:30 am to CatfishJohn
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So you want boxing to say they aren't allowed to compete because they've had concussions in the past?
That’s not a bad idea, if only boxing had one governing body worldwide that everybody respected… the NBA doesn’t allow players to play if they have certain medical issues.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:34 am to St Augustine
Hate to be crass but the way Tua leads with his head every time it's no wonder he's concussion prone.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:45 am to chalmetteowl
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That’s not a bad idea, if only boxing had one governing body worldwide that everybody respected… the NBA doesn’t allow players to play if they have certain medical issues.
Doctors don't clear them, I presume, in this instance.
Again, if doctors clear him, he should be able to make the call himself.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:00 am to CatfishJohn
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Tua is a grown arse man. If doctors say he can play, it's up to him.
I don’t disagree with you. I also know there is no way the NFL wants to keep trotting him out there after this has happened multiple times. The billion dollar corporation tends to win these kinds of things. Hence the thread.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:20 am to Dadren
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The NFL has a stake in Tua not turning into a vegetable in five years, so in theory, they could choose to act in their own best interest and never medically clear him again.
There are specific benchmarks in the clearing process, they can't just make shite up on the fly
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:46 am to CatfishJohn
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So you want boxing to say they aren't allowed to compete, despite being medically cleared, because they've had concussions in the past?
Nowhere in my post did I say that. I simply stated that boxers often hang around too long for their own good.
It is the very nature of boxing to be concussed from time to time, whether it's in the gym during sparring---although that is minimized with headgear and larger gloves with more padding, or in the ring under sanctioned bouts.
But you can't argue that boxers are probably the most affected by taking head blows during their careers more so than any other athlete.
The list of boxers suffering from pugilistic dementia as they age is staggeringly long. One of the worst cases is Wilfred Benitez who won a world title against Antonio Cervantes at age 17 in 1976 after he started his pro career at age 15.
By 1989, just 12 years later and not yet 30, it was clear he was suffering from degenerative brain disease and has only gotten worse since then. He's now 66 and is just a shell of what he once was, needing 24/7 care by his family members.
To me, no amount of money and fame is worth that price to pay.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:59 am to Epic Cajun
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There are specific benchmarks in the clearing process, they can't just make shite up on the fly
Serious question, were those benchmarks established with the NFLPA? If not, why wouldn’t the league be able to change them whenever they want?
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:10 am to PCRammer
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I'd play out the rest of the year....maybe even sit the bench and collect the 40-ish mil for this year then hang them up
Not really how his contract is set up. Per Over the Cap, he received $42M at signing (gets to keep that even if he retires now). His base salary this year is just over $1M (maybe league minimum). His big money (other than bonus) doesn't really kick in until next year. $25M in 2025, $39M in 2026, $31M in 2027 & $41M in 2028...plus the bonus money.
$42M is still life changing money and he should retire now. Hopefully he doesn't try to chase the bigger pay days and stays around too much longer to cash that check
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:14 am to St Augustine
This falls on the neuro doctor. Didn’t the doctor say it wasn’t recommended he play again previously? End of day it’s the player responsibility as well.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:26 am to lsufan1971
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I have heard him say he hasn’t spent a nickel of his contract money since entering the league. Has been living off his endorsement $$$.
Marshawn Lynch did the same thing
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:42 am to St Augustine
NFL is such a joke.. I'm supposed to shed tears for this millionaire because he got a concussion playing a game. He wasn't smart enough to slide or get down. There's soldiers dying for our country who may $25,000 a year. Same for a cop or a firefighter who put their actual lives on the line. shite look at the MMA fighter who make crumbs compared to football players. I'm pretty sure they get CTE too. They'll turn this Tua situation into the next big social justice issue. "Football players are oppressed" "Modern day slavery" 
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:45 am to Dadren
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Serious question, were those benchmarks established with the NFLPA? If not, why wouldn’t the league be able to change them whenever they want?
It’s part of the collectively bargained agreement between the players and league.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:58 am to St Augustine
It absolutely should be his decision, but one would hope he would stop thinking like a competitor and an athlete and start thinking in terms of “Do I really want to risk becoming a drooling vegetable pissing through a catheter and crapping in diapers before I’m 50?”
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:08 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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$42M is still life changing money and he should retire now.
That is his signing bonus this year. He made $30M in his first four years in the league. He's already earned $72M in his career. He should be fine financially if he chose to retire now. If not, then he's an idiot.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:18 pm to High Life
The NFL is now marketed to beta cucks and housewives. Thats why you see this melodrama silliness anytime somebody gets hurt. It’ll be sarcastaball very soon.
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