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re: so lebron said the world cup is better than the nba finals

Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:26 pm to
Can you find those easily on American TV?
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:26 pm to
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. I still think it's easier to find a WNBA game than soccer currently


Well of course, currently, the only league of note going on right now is MLS and that will change next year with the new ESPN TV contract.

Overall, though, it is much easier to find a nationally broadcasted soccer match in America than a WNBA game.

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I used the NCAA basketball as an example to prove that even the second most popular college sport in America is still way ahead of soccer in popularity.


Nobody is disagreeing with this.

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Not sure why some of you can't accept that and comprehend it.


Like who?

Because they disagree with your original argument that soccer is still irrelevant in the US?

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Not sure why some of you can't accept that and comprehend it.



That's a pretty douchey statement.

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Y'all getting defensive about it is actually proving the OPs point that soccer fans in America can be absolute douches and annoying about the sport.



Nobody is getting defensive to the point of anger.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:28 pm to
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The MLS is pretty much non existent in the southeast, so I don't have a "home team". That will change soon with Atlanta getting an MLS team in 2017. I plan to watch them when it starts.


Like I said, it has plenty of room to grow, but it is still way behind here in America.

440K viewers for an average game isn't shite in TV ratings. I am pretty sure Big Bang Theory reruns on TBS get that.

Hell, Community just got cancelled for only averaging 1.2 million viewers per week.
Posted by Carolina Tide
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:29 pm to
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who cares about the nba finals? i can agree with lebron on that. but the super bowl is so much more interesting and more entertaining than a non-usa world cup. that game today was boring,


This past Superbowl was MUCH more boring than the WC final.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:31 pm to
MLS also just signed it's largest TV deal. It doesn't help that ESPN/NBCSN currently doesn't have a consistent time slot for it, although it will win the new deal kicks in.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:31 pm to
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The MLS is pretty much non existent in the southeast, so I don't have a "home team". That will change soon with Atlanta getting an MLS team in 2017. I plan to watch them when it starts.



NOLA FC or nothing... put the stadium by Poland Av. and where the Mississippi and Industrial Canal meet in the Bywater. it's big enough.
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 7:38 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:32 pm to
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Because they disagree with your original argument that soccer is still irrelevant in the US?




An average of 440k viewers out of 600+ million people prove this though.

Not sure how you can argue with the statistics in front of you.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:33 pm to
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An average of 440k viewers out of 600+ million people prove this though.

Not sure how you can argue with the statistics in front of you.


So is NCAA basketball irrelevant?
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:34 pm to
I couldn't make it through two sentences of your post.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:35 pm to
An average weekly game is.

Their showcase games on ESPN average more ratings than 440K though.

This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:35 pm to
That's not really apples to apples when the first wave of games is on at 6:30 in the morning.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:36 pm to
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That's not really apples to apples when the first wave of games is on at 6:30 in the morning.



You keep helping my argument. Yet another thing holding it's growth back in the USA.
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 7:37 pm
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:37 pm to
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An average weekly game is.



How many are at 6:30 and 9 in the morning, though?

And how about the World Cup ratings being better than NCAA Tournament ratings?

Do you not agree with that context?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:39 pm to
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And how about the World Cup ratings being better than NCAA Tournament ratings?



So are Olympic ratings but that doesn't mean people are going to tune into a track meet during the regular season. Sort of hard to compare a World Wide once every 4 year event to something that happens every year like the NCAA tourney and doesn't have World Wide implications.

This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:40 pm to
The MLS is adding four expansion teams in the next few years, so I guess someone sees money somewhere. Point being, not sure the tv ratings are telling the full story.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:41 pm to
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Same here.. I think they are all fake arse fans


Who the hell cares? No one gives a shite about curling, figure skating, bobsledding, gymnastics, swimming, etc... but we jump on the bandwaggon every Olympics.

Soccer fans are 2nd in pretentiousness only to new parents (and even then you guys are pushing it)

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The USA fans while we were in it wanted to make me vomit


I don't even....so you're mad that they supported their country for a sport they don't normally care to watch?

Soccer fans are always complaining about the sport gaining popularity in the states, yet when people get excited about an event, you go all high horse hipster on us.
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:42 pm to
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So are Olympic ratings but that doesn't mean people are going to tune into a track meet during the regular season. Sort of hard to compare a World Wide once every 4 year event to something that happens every year like the NCAA tourney and doesn't have World Wide implications.



The Olympics is a bunch of different sports that bring in more viewers based on what sport is showing on a specific day. The World Cup is just one sport.

That's not a fair comparison at all.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:43 pm to
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I don't even....so you're mad that they supported their country for a sport they don't normally care to watch?

Soccer fans are always complaining about the sport gaining popularity in the states, yet when people get excited about an even, you go all high horse hipster on us.



What are you talking about?

The guy you responded to clearly isn't a soccer fan.
Posted by dcrews
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:45 pm to
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What are you talking about?

The guy you responded to clearly isn't a soccer fan.


The way I interpreted it, is that he was agreeing with the OP. I was under the impression he was a fan.

No offense to you, but 99% of my interactions with avid soccer fans (both online and in person) have reflect what he and the OP stated.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:49 pm to
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That's not a fair comparison at all.




I wasn't comparing the Olympics to anything. Just using it as an example that went over your head. Just because 6 million people might tune into the 100M dash for the Olympics doesn't mean that the same amount of people are going to tune into just any 100M dash during the regular track season. Not sure what about that you didn't catch.

The same is true for using World Cup ratings for Soccer.

The better indicator is my link earlier for your Premier League on NBC only averaging 440K per game.

Not sure why you even used the World Cup in comparison to March Madness.

Of course a once every 4 year worldwide event is going to bring in more viewers than March Madness.

That being said, the average of the top regular season NCAA games double up the Premiere League.

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