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Should pro sports ditch the draft to solve tanking issues?

Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:18 pm
Posted by barry
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:18 pm
Tanking has become quite popular in all major sports, why not ditch the draft and just give teams a rookie class budget and make everyone a FA.

This is essentially what college sports do with recruiting, but all scholarships have the same value(in theory ). With a pool of money, it would work more like FA and you wouldn't see as much of the stockpiling of talent by top programs like you see in college.

At this point, the draft just seems antiquated and reduces the flexibility of management...and players for that matter

This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 1:21 pm
Posted by TypoKnig
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by tigerfan88
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:21 pm to
Will never happen. Draft excitement is what keeps 25-30% of fans engaged over the last half of the season. That plus the draft itself is the NFL’s big Spring Event, not only the weekend itself but countless of hours and pages of previews and coverage.

No one actually cares about tanking in terms of viewership. Meaning no one is going to decide to watch the 2-12 jets because they’re “trying” as opposed to “tanking.”
Posted by atomic31
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:21 pm to
Lakers would get first choice on who they wanted every year
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:22 pm to
I don't see what the big deal is with tanking. You are trading winning now for the possibility of winning later. You still have to make the right moves in order to have success later.
Posted by Nobelium
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:22 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:23 pm to
Sports is the one place where communism works.


Doing this would turn every league into an extreme version of the NBA. Only glamour teams would get all of the players. All of the best rookies would sign with a few teams, and take less to do so in the hopes of parlaying being with an elite franchise into a 2nd big contract.

No one would ever sign with fly over teams.
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:26 pm to
They have the lottery in the NBA and NHL and teams don't really tank in the NFL and MLB. The Jets had all the incentive in the world to tank yet they didn't. Players and coaches are looking out for their next contract and professional future. They aren't going to give less effort and throw away games so their team can get a "generational player" in the draft.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:27 pm to
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Lakers would get first choice on who they wanted every year



I think this is where you could also factor in cap space and just have a minimum to spend on a rookie class, but teams could pay more as long as they obeyed the cap rules.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:29 pm to
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I don't see what the big deal is with tanking. You are trading winning now for the possibility of winning later. You still have to make the right moves in order to have success later.




because the only incentive to do so is because the system rewards you. If it no longer does that than you would have less terrible teams.

Also by not rewarding tanking, those teams wouldn't give up quality players via trade or FA to "better" teams, thus creating more super teams that you guys are worried about.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:31 pm to
Tanking is just the inevitable

I used To say about the Saints in the early 2000: there is no point in going 8-8 and missing the playoffs. You’re worse off than if you went 0-16. No coach wants to be the 0-16 guy but I think everyone would take a first overall pic.

The bengals. The Jets and the Giants just fricked themself this year.

Posted by barry
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:31 pm to
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Well, considering CFB and the NBA have far less parity


college football parity issues are because scholarships all have the same value. If everyone gets paid the same, then yea, people will go to the best team/org.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:32 pm to
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Players and coaches are looking out for their next contract and professional future.


Players and coaches don't tank, front offices do.
Posted by TypoKnig
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:33 pm to
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You’re worse off than if you went 0-16. No coach wants to be the 0-16 guy but I think everyone would take a first overall pic.


The problem is tanking benefits the organization but not the individual coaches and players. Players and coaches could tank to get a generational talent and then get cut/fired in the off-season. Players judged on individual success have no incentive to tank for a team.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 1:35 pm
Posted by barry
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:33 pm to
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Tanking is just the inevitable


Because you're rewarded with the first overall pick...
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:34 pm to
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Meaning no one is going to decide to watch the 2-12 jets because they’re “trying” as opposed to “tanking.”




now if we had soccer-style relegation, it would be different
Posted by barry
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:34 pm to
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Draft excitement is what keeps 25-30% of fans engaged over the last half of the season.


have you not seen the excitement that comes from recruiting in college sports?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:35 pm to
I suggested that for the NBA for years. You still have roster limits and a salary cap
Posted by barry
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:35 pm to
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now if we had soccer-style relegation, it would be different


That's just never going to happen because your fricking with teams' franchise values.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:42 pm to
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That's just never going to happen because your fricking with teams' franchise values.




Also there aren’t 80 teams
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