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re: Semenya may be ineligible for Tokyo Games
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:57 pm to chalmetteowl
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:57 pm to chalmetteowl
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does she look like a woman on the outside? That's all I want to know
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:07 pm to chalmetteowl
She looks feminine at times.
Other times she looks like a man.
Other times she looks like a man.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:09 pm to ReauxlTide222
I don't think she looks ever feminine.
She looks like a DB for Alabama.
She looks like a DB for Alabama.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:14 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Clearly looks like a woman here
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:18 pm to sms151t
She’s started a conversation. Worth more than any medal.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:19 pm to ReauxlTide222
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She looks feminine at times.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:20 pm to Jamohn
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She looks feminine at times.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:23 pm to ReauxlTide222
Yeah, I'm not seeing any of these "times". He/she/it/they (sorry, don't know what personal pronouns Castor uses) looks like a cross dresser at his/her/its/their most feminine
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:52 pm to Jamohn
I kind of feel for this person bc she isn’t trying to beat the system so to speak. At her birth, her parents/doctors essentially chose her gender (my understanding it was just easier to essentially make her a female).
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:57 pm to STEVED00
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I kind of feel for this person bc she isn’t trying to beat the system so to speak. At her birth, her parents/doctors essentially chose her gender (my understanding it was just easier to essentially make her a female).
I agree. On the one hand, there is no malicious intent on her part. On the other hand, it is unfair for the women competing in the 800 meters.
She wouldn't be ineligible for Tokyo. However, she would have to take medication that would limit her testosterone levels. This isn't too far off from previous rules that were in place about 5 years ago. If I remember correctly, it added about 3-4 seconds to her times, which made her a top 10 runner instead of the clear champion.
I do think that if this ruling is successfully appealed, it is because it is so obviously applied only to middle distance running. The reason why is because the top 3 800 meter runners are intersex. In no other sport is an intersex athlete considered a serious threat to win anything.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:59 pm to STEVED00
She was basically a male...but didn't have male parts.
Except internally. And those have never been removed which is a clear advantage because it provides male testosterone...which makes people stronger and better athletes. It's why the East German women lived off of it and started growing facial hair.
There's a great doc on what Testosterone does to women in sports (I forget the name) but it's basically about the East German and Chinese doping programs and the lawsuits in later years.
But to compete with this person, women have to dope...because she has naturally which is not allowed medically.
Except internally. And those have never been removed which is a clear advantage because it provides male testosterone...which makes people stronger and better athletes. It's why the East German women lived off of it and started growing facial hair.
There's a great doc on what Testosterone does to women in sports (I forget the name) but it's basically about the East German and Chinese doping programs and the lawsuits in later years.
But to compete with this person, women have to dope...because she has naturally which is not allowed medically.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:45 pm to Keys Open Doors
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In no other sport is an intersex athlete considered a serious threat to win anything.
Maybe weightlifting. Laurel Hubbard isn't intersex, but is a man competing against women and winning.
Requiring intersex athletes to lower their testosterone for 6 months prior to competing against women is a start. But it ignores the fact that they developed through puberty with testosterone and developed muscles and strength that none of the female competitors have.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:08 pm to Keys Open Doors
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I agree. On the one hand, there is no malicious intent on her part. On the other hand, it is unfair for the women competing in the 800 meters.
Is it any more unfair than Usain Bolt or Michael Phelps being born with a favorable body structure?
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:14 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Yes. Unquestionably. Their bodies are still the same structurally as their competitors. Semenya's is not.
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 7:16 pm
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