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re: Report: NCAA could OK new transfer eligibility rule at next meeting
Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:24 pm to bamameister
Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:24 pm to bamameister
Bama,
Its already happened to my team when your team took in Gibbs. Schools could stop this tomorrow by simply saying they will not let transfers play. It’s simple. You can’t deny them admission if they meet the requirements but you darn sure aren’t going to be court ordered to put them on your team or have a court ordering them playing time. We also lost several defensive starters who now start for Ole Miss. But so what? That’s the real world and if Bama and Ole Miss can lure them away then so be it. You don’t see any of the mid level or mediocre teams crying about the portal. You only see the big boys crying because this is the first adaptation to the sport that doesn’t benefit the big boys. And many of y’all simply can’t handle a more level playing field.
None of the top teams, especially SEC teams like UGA, Bama, and LSU have anywhere near the depth they had even 3 seasons ago because your backups are transferring out for playing time. That’s why Michigan was able to come in and wreck the SEC. Michigan is the same decent team they’ve been for 20 years. The difference is the SEC top tier is coming back to the pack because of the portal. Sure, these top teams get a few stars portal in that grab the headlines, ala Gibbs, but the game is won in numbers of backups who can contribute. You guys know all this because this is why the SEC has dominated for 30 years.
I think it is great that now a South Carolina, NC state, Georgia Tech, Tennesee can get a 2nd and 3rd bite at the recruiting game along with NIL. Now, that a kid who bought Kirby’s recruiting line as a 17 year old can get out if he is buried. What’s wrong with that. Kirby will still win a lot of ball games and that player can now get playing time elsewhere. The difference is the gap has tightened whcih 8s why Michigan walked it out this year. Michigan did a much better job at retaining their depth than the top SEC schools. With the Midwest consisting of only Michigan, Ohio State, and ND it will be easier to keep their kids home unlike down south where you have a major P5 school every 150 miles.
Its already happened to my team when your team took in Gibbs. Schools could stop this tomorrow by simply saying they will not let transfers play. It’s simple. You can’t deny them admission if they meet the requirements but you darn sure aren’t going to be court ordered to put them on your team or have a court ordering them playing time. We also lost several defensive starters who now start for Ole Miss. But so what? That’s the real world and if Bama and Ole Miss can lure them away then so be it. You don’t see any of the mid level or mediocre teams crying about the portal. You only see the big boys crying because this is the first adaptation to the sport that doesn’t benefit the big boys. And many of y’all simply can’t handle a more level playing field.
None of the top teams, especially SEC teams like UGA, Bama, and LSU have anywhere near the depth they had even 3 seasons ago because your backups are transferring out for playing time. That’s why Michigan was able to come in and wreck the SEC. Michigan is the same decent team they’ve been for 20 years. The difference is the SEC top tier is coming back to the pack because of the portal. Sure, these top teams get a few stars portal in that grab the headlines, ala Gibbs, but the game is won in numbers of backups who can contribute. You guys know all this because this is why the SEC has dominated for 30 years.
I think it is great that now a South Carolina, NC state, Georgia Tech, Tennesee can get a 2nd and 3rd bite at the recruiting game along with NIL. Now, that a kid who bought Kirby’s recruiting line as a 17 year old can get out if he is buried. What’s wrong with that. Kirby will still win a lot of ball games and that player can now get playing time elsewhere. The difference is the gap has tightened whcih 8s why Michigan walked it out this year. Michigan did a much better job at retaining their depth than the top SEC schools. With the Midwest consisting of only Michigan, Ohio State, and ND it will be easier to keep their kids home unlike down south where you have a major P5 school every 150 miles.
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:20 pm to SPEEDY
Just when you think they can’t make it worse they dig deep and find a way. It’s actually impressive.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:46 am to Ghost of Colby
quote:WTF?
The ratings are gonna keep going up, and it’s a good thing because they’re going kill the other college sports.
ZERO chance women’s basketball ratings will continue to go up long term.
The most recent ratings are a big time anomaly.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:52 am to jb4
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Why can’t there be a 1 year sit out rule for transfers ?
Because the ncaa keeps getting their arse sued and losing. Do any of yall keep up with this? Or just complain
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:41 am to blzr
OK now tell me why Lebron James can’t enroll at the Ohio state and play on their hoops team ? He should have 4 years of eligibility to complete a college degree and plow Dr Diane Turners on campus 
he should enroll and sue
he should enroll and sue This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:12 am to jb4
See, this is why so many are easily triggered on this. They think emotionally. Players will not be allowed to transfer during a game or after turning pro. The courts will not allow it because that is not rational. Changing the system from a 1 year sit out penalty to no sit out period is rational. Why should a player be arbitrarily punished because the old guard forced the NCAA to implement a 1 year sit out rule decades ago to protect themselves?
The crux of all this is that the NCAA never did its job properly. The NCAA allowed the big media figure heads like Bear Bryant, Bo, Joe, and others to call the shots instead of the other way around. There never should have been a one year sit out penalty. The NCAA should have told those coaches no. But instead , the NCAA caved and it worked for decades with very few transfers.. How many players had their college careers ruined by coaches? Fast forward to today and this is how it should have been all along - you lie to a player to get him to sign and you’ll have consequences. A player simply changes his mind to be closer to family or because someone offered him a million - so what.
So many here just can’t handle the simple fact that the power has now shifted from old scumbag coaches you’ve put on a pedestal your entire life to now whiny entitled players. I can’t stand either group which is why I root for my teams jerseys and could care less about any individual coach or player. And I darn sure don’t care about a player once he is no longer wearing my teams jersey whether it’s another college team or a pro team. They use my school and I use them for entertainment. Then we both move on.
The crux of all this is that the NCAA never did its job properly. The NCAA allowed the big media figure heads like Bear Bryant, Bo, Joe, and others to call the shots instead of the other way around. There never should have been a one year sit out penalty. The NCAA should have told those coaches no. But instead , the NCAA caved and it worked for decades with very few transfers.. How many players had their college careers ruined by coaches? Fast forward to today and this is how it should have been all along - you lie to a player to get him to sign and you’ll have consequences. A player simply changes his mind to be closer to family or because someone offered him a million - so what.
So many here just can’t handle the simple fact that the power has now shifted from old scumbag coaches you’ve put on a pedestal your entire life to now whiny entitled players. I can’t stand either group which is why I root for my teams jerseys and could care less about any individual coach or player. And I darn sure don’t care about a player once he is no longer wearing my teams jersey whether it’s another college team or a pro team. They use my school and I use them for entertainment. Then we both move on.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:28 am to RunningJacket
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The courts will not allow it
what I don't udnerstand (and I'm truly ignorant, I'm not trying to be funny) is why the hell courts are so involved with all this shite anyway. It's college athletics...why can't a governing body just create and enfornce its own guidelines?
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Why should a player be arbitrarily punished because the old guard forced the NCAA to implement a 1 year sit out rule decades ago to protect themselves?
I don' thtink creating rules = punishment. Players should have to sit afte transferring because it upholds the integrity of the sport. A federal court has no businsess saying "nah you can't do that".
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So many here just can’t handle the simple fact that the power has now shifted from old scumbag coaches you’ve put on a pedestal your entire life to now whiny entitled players
what does this even mean? What power? Coaches are coaches...players are amateur student athletes. The 2 shoudl be lookd at differently with very different roles and responsibilities.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:31 am to WG_Dawg
quote:
what I don't udnerstand (and I'm truly ignorant, I'm not trying to be funny) is why the hell courts are so involved with all this shite anyway. It's college athletics...why can't a governing body just create and enfornce its own guidelines?
Because it is a jillion dollar business now, not merely a sport.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:37 am to RunningJacket
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There is nothing wrong with the portal other than fans of the normal powerhouse schools waking up and realizing something happened in this sport that doesn’t benefit you. I think it’s great. The days of Bama, UGA, LSU stacking
It's the small schools that are getting the gutted the most. The moment some talented RB at Tulane or some young promising QB at Cal shows out, they're transferring out the next season to an Ohio St, Georgia, Alabama, etc. Because in the end the smaller schools don't have close to the NIL funds the larger ones do. And that's what most of the players are chasing in the end
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:38 pm to 1BamaRTR
If you look at the totals you are wrong. For every “star” the media reports transferring to a top tier team those same teams lose depth. Just google any of the top teams. UGA in 2023 had 4 transfer ins and 15 transfers out. Now, I’m not saying every transfer out is a huge loss especially when these teams continue to recruit the top high school kids but anyone who watched the games can see that UGA and Bama were not nearly as dominant throughout the season. Sure, they won a lot of games, but in the end they both lost because they couldn’t roll stud after stud like they’ve both done for a long time.
And sure, the mid level teams lose a player here and there but take my team as an example- GT. We lost Gibbs to Bama. But we brought in more 4 stars than we’ve ever had including our first legit system QB in 20 years. And we doubled our wins.
The portal will prove to be an incredible narrower of the talent gap. UGA and Bama will continue to have the top recruiting classes in the south because who doesn’t want to get their back slapped their senior year in high school. But we all know they’ll lose a lot of those players after year 1 to teams like GT and other mid level schools offering playing time.
I see the teams up north who have less competition for players closing that gap big time while players in the south all swap schools every year.
And sure, the mid level teams lose a player here and there but take my team as an example- GT. We lost Gibbs to Bama. But we brought in more 4 stars than we’ve ever had including our first legit system QB in 20 years. And we doubled our wins.
The portal will prove to be an incredible narrower of the talent gap. UGA and Bama will continue to have the top recruiting classes in the south because who doesn’t want to get their back slapped their senior year in high school. But we all know they’ll lose a lot of those players after year 1 to teams like GT and other mid level schools offering playing time.
I see the teams up north who have less competition for players closing that gap big time while players in the south all swap schools every year.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:18 pm to RunningJacket
quote:
I see the teams up north who have less competition for players closing that gap big time while players in the south all swap schools every year.
This ain’t the old days… everyone wants to play in the SEC
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:22 pm to SPEEDY
I am for letting players transfer but I think the nCAA needs to set common sense rules
1 transfer after 3 years
1 transfer when you graduate
1 Transfer when your HEAD Coach is fired.
Would solve a lot of this nonsense. especially NIL nonsense.
1 transfer after 3 years
1 transfer when you graduate
1 Transfer when your HEAD Coach is fired.
Would solve a lot of this nonsense. especially NIL nonsense.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:44 pm to SPEEDY
They should just transfer same day. Play an early game on the east coast and then fly out west. I’d love to see someone suit up for Miami at 11am and then finish the night playing for the Trojans in the Coliseum.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:41 pm to SammyTiger
Football needs to break away from the NCAA. Players create a union. Schools sign players to 1,2,3, or 4 year contracts. Players are free to leave or or renegotiate after they fulfill their contract. There are minimum salaries. And there is a salary cap for college teams just like the NFL. College rosters are cut to 50 or so, so other schools will still get players.
Would solve a lot of problems.
Would solve a lot of problems.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:51 pm to SPEEDY
This shite is so stupid the NIL ruling was the death blow of college athletics
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:52 pm to Boss
quote:imagine it is LSU vs Bama week. The LSU QB doesn’t think they are good enough so he transfers to Bama and smokes us
Football needs to break away from the NCAA. Players create a union. Schools sign players to 1,2,3, or 4 year contracts. Players are free to leave or or renegotiate after they fulfill their contract. There are minimum salaries. And there is a salary cap for college teams just like the NFL. College rosters are cut to 50 or so, so other schools will still get players.
This is where we are headed
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 6:53 pm
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