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re: Rank these upsets: UMBC/VA, App state/mich, Stanford/USC
Posted on 3/17/18 at 4:03 pm to airfernando
Posted on 3/17/18 at 4:03 pm to airfernando
quote:Yeah it was really just surprising that Michigan had fallen THAT far. App State was just a better team.
app state Mich shouldn't be on the list bc Mich sucked
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Posted on 3/17/18 at 4:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Using Gambling lines, Vegas still claims the Norfolk st win over Missouri is still biggest upset in NCAA tourney.
Dind't chaminade beat Ralph Sampson and Virginia?
Dind't chaminade beat Ralph Sampson and Virginia?
Posted on 3/17/18 at 4:22 pm to Carson123987
Nobody even knew who UMBC was. They are a freaking county college. That is enough "wow" right there in itself to go in and beat the top overall seed.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 4:28 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:
Stanford and USC play in the same conference
This. Sure, USC was a lot better than Stanford but Appalachian State beating Michigan was another planet. People don't realize how much better power 5 conferences are than 1-AA teams. Even bottom tier programs like Kentucky or Illinois destroy teams like Wofford or the Citadel.
App State beating a top 5 Michigan team in the Big House is so much more impressive.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 4:39 pm to Carson123987
quote:
UMBC doesn't have the "omg wow" factor that App St did
Because the entire Michigan team made a big stink about coming back to win a National Title.
And Appy State plays little boy pants football from a lower-tier that people scoff at.
And Michigan was preseason ranked #4 in the country.
I don't care how bad you end up being.
AND THEY WEREN'T TERRIBLE. To the poster that said they were terrible. They went 9-4 and finished 6-2 in the BIG10, beat #9 Florida and finished #19 in the country.
No Top 25 team should ever lose to a 1-AA team.
Especially teams that beat the SEC runner-up like Michigan did.
This post was edited on 3/17/18 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 3/17/18 at 4:40 pm to ClientNumber9
quote:
Even bottom tier programs like Kentucky or Illinois destroy teams like Wofford or the Citadel.
What's NDSU's winning streak against the P5 again? The gap has closed. Didn't VT get beat by William and Mary a few years back too? There are plenty examples of P5 teams losing to FCS teams, particularly the turn of the millennium. It happened before Appy, it happened after Appy, will probably happen again sometime this year to some scrub P5 team. There are FCS teams that aren't even that good in the FCS that have notched wins against a P5 team.
The only reason it got the pub it did is because Michigan is a big name in the CFB landscape with a rich history and was preseason #5, but they finished with 4 losses. Appy State was the 2x defending champion and won it again that year. I get why it was a big deal at the time and don't get me wrong, it's still a major upset but at the season's end it lost a lot of luster
This post was edited on 3/17/18 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 3/17/18 at 4:57 pm to beaverfever
quote:
app state Mich shouldn't be on the list bc Mich sucked
Yeah it was really just surprising that Michigan had fallen THAT far. App State was just a better team.
i'm pretty sure that Michigan team went on to beat a Tebow led Florida team in a bowl game, so no they weren't that bad
Posted on 3/17/18 at 5:12 pm to WaterLink
What is this Stanford/USC game? Would this not be similar to Clemson losing to Syracuse this past year?
quote:App State still wasn’t playing at another level that year. They lost to Wofford and Georgia Southern after beating Michigan.
Apply State won their 3rd straight NC that year. And Michigan finished 8-4.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 5:34 pm to tigeroarz1
quote:
What is this Stanford/USC game? Would this not be similar to Clemson losing to Syracuse this past year?
No, because this was when Stanford was still playing football with a bunch of nerds.
41 point underdog.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 5:35 pm to REG861
quote:
i'm pretty sure that Michigan team went on to beat a Tebow led Florida team in a bowl game, so no they weren't that bad
That Florida team had a god awful defense, easily the worst team in the Tebow era, didn't they lose like 5 games that year?
Posted on 3/17/18 at 5:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
UVa is gonna be reminded of this one for a long, long time.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 5:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Football upsets are harder than basketball.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 5:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
1. UMBC over Virginia
2. Stanford over USC
3. App State over Michigan
2. Stanford over USC
3. App State over Michigan
Posted on 3/17/18 at 5:43 pm to SeeeeK
quote:
Dind't chaminade beat Ralph Sampson and Virginia?
Yep, and they were NAIA at the time.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 5:44 pm to WaterLink
quote:
That Florida team had a god awful defense, easily the worst team in the Tebow era, didn't they lose like 5 games that year?
The defense was poo because of all the lost starters from the 06 team but we were still pretty good. I'm certain we would've finished top 10 if we had won that bowl.
That was the same year as the classic 28-24 LSU game in Death Valley.
This post was edited on 3/17/18 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 3/17/18 at 5:47 pm to FightinTigersDammit
quote:
UVa is gonna be reminded of this one for a long, long time.
As they should. Imagine if Alabama was #1 and 13-0 going into the CFP and lost to a middle of the road D2 program.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 5:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
From a talent perspective, App State over Mich. Small football schools have a MUCH bigger disadvantage against major conference opponents than small basketball schools.
From an impact and notability perspective, UMBC over UVA.
From an impact and notability perspective, UMBC over UVA.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 7:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Using stats and metrics - CBS sports declared UVA the greatest defensive team of all-time.
They allowed just 53 points a game in the ACC.
And limited opponents to 30% from the 3-point line.
They gave up 74 to a Community College and the Retrievers shot 50% from the 3-point line.
They allowed just 53 points a game in the ACC.
And limited opponents to 30% from the 3-point line.
They gave up 74 to a Community College and the Retrievers shot 50% from the 3-point line.
This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 3/18/18 at 7:43 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I was at the Stanford-SC game. It was so surreal. Still doesnt even seem real. The whole experience was so bizarre.
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