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re: Possible new Louisiana high school athletic association announced tonight
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:30 pm to tigerskin
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:30 pm to tigerskin
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ust move up or down the teams that need to be moved up or down based on competitiveness
Wasn't it like this year's ago, then the 5A and 4A schools cried about little Evangel and Curtis being too good and they should be in the class associated with their school size. Then they won every 2A title and those guys got pissy. Then they split.
They should treat the divisions like European country soccer leagues. Let teams move up that are good, and let the crappy ones move down. Riverside and Madison prep would stop winning worthless class b titles.
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Posted on 3/18/16 at 9:30 am to TeddyPadillac
That was proposed, as was the idea of a "Super Class" open to any larger or consistently superior schools. But once the split was passed for the other sports, this past January, all other ideas were removed.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:25 am to TeddyPadillac
I'll keep hammering this point until someone listens:
Classifying by enrollment is as outdated as the telegraph
Classifying by enrollment is as outdated as the telegraph
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:41 am to RidiculousHype
Classifying by enrollment/sending Evangel and Curtis down wasn't about competitiveness. It was about trying to bankrupt Evangel. They were bankrolling their school by playing 5A schools with big fanbases. They would bring 500-1000 people and split the money with 5-6K in attendance. They played a regular season game against WM in Independence Stadium in front of 34K. The thought was to make them play in front of smaller crowds/make less money. Also they thought a small title wouldn't be as appealing to recruits. It's honestly worked. Evangel is a shell of their 90's/early 00's selves.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:42 am to RedPop4
Super Class would have solved all.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:55 am to JJ27
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Classifying by enrollment/sending Evangel and Curtis down wasn't about competitiveness. It was about trying to bankrupt Evangel. They were bankrolling their school by playing 5A schools with big fanbases. They would bring 500-1000 people and split the money with 5-6K in attendance. They played a regular season game against WM in Independence Stadium in front of 34K. The thought was to make them play in front of smaller crowds/make less money. Also they thought a small title wouldn't be as appealing to recruits. It's honestly worked. Evangel is a shell of their 90's/early 00's selves.
but not because of that - because the booty tribe left and went to CBA---.. meanwhile it caused massive bad blood which has us where we are now.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:04 am to choupiquesushi
Firing Booty was the dumbest thing Evangel ever did. Calvary is basically early Evangel now.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 1:18 pm to JJ27
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Classifying by enrollment/sending Evangel and Curtis down wasn't about competitiveness. It was about trying to bankrupt Evangel. They were bankrolling their school by playing 5A schools with big fanbases. They would bring 500-1000 people and split the money with 5-6K in attendance. They played a regular season game against WM in Independence Stadium in front of 34K. The thought was to make them play in front of smaller crowds/make less money. Also they thought a small title wouldn't be as appealing to recruits. It's honestly worked. Evangel is a shell of their 90's/early 00's selves.
I don't care what the motivations were - classifying teams for athletic competition based on school enrollment is completely asinine.
If you really want to do it right, classification should be done based on an athletic program's participation rate, resources, and history of success.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 1:41 pm to RidiculousHype
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I don't care what the motivations were - classifying teams for athletic competition based on school enrollment is completely asinine.
is it not a good general rough guide? especially in football. you can count on one hand the 1A schools that attempt to play 5A competition regularly, let alone beat them
but yeah it did come from a different time and place...
Posted on 3/18/16 at 2:00 pm to JJ27
How long until Calvary starts rolling like late 90s Evangel?
Posted on 3/18/16 at 3:46 pm to RidiculousHype
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If you really want to do it right, classification should be done based on an athletic program's participation rate, resources, and history of success.
Would you average that across all sports?
Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:00 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
They would've went back to back if Shea didn't leave.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:09 pm to tigerskin
So is this like the old LISA league?
Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:26 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:the fact that a baseball, etc. has to play by the football classifications is asinine.
Would you average that across all sports?
Posted on 3/19/16 at 8:44 am to chalmetteowl
Calvary did go back to back. They could have 3 peated if Shea Patterson had stayed.
Posted on 3/19/16 at 9:13 am to JJ27
WM is not sharing anything
They enjoy being a big fish in a small pond and being the benefactor of top talent moving into their district on an annual basis.
They enjoy being a big fish in a small pond and being the benefactor of top talent moving into their district on an annual basis.
Posted on 3/19/16 at 9:42 am to RidiculousHype
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I don't care what the motivations were - classifying teams for athletic competition based on school enrollment is completely asinine.
If you really want to do it right, classification should be done based on an athletic program's participation rate, resources, and history of success.
I'm not sure how you do that.
Posted on 3/19/16 at 10:37 am to choupiquesushi
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no Lisa was comprised of ZERO schools that LEFT the LHSAA to be members there........big difference
Not zero. Sam Barthe moved from the LHSAA to LISA.
LINK
Posted on 3/19/16 at 11:08 am to Rouge
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WM is not sharing anything They enjoy being a big fish in a small pond
I agree with this.
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Being the benefactor of top talent moving into their district on an annual basis
Actually not the case. They opened up the parish and you can go wherever you want as long as it's your freshman year. Neville and Ouachita are the ones pulling all of the talent, even a lot out of WM. Neville's QB went to WM feeders in elementary and middle school. OCS takes several every year too.
This post was edited on 3/19/16 at 11:22 am
Posted on 3/19/16 at 11:37 am to JJ27
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They opened up the parish and you can go wherever you want as long as it's your freshman year. Neville and Ouachita are the ones pulling all of the talent, even a lot out of WM. Neville's QB went to WM feeders in elementary and middle school. OCS takes several every year too.
..and here we go
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