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re: Penn State NCAA Sanctions thread - announcement at 8 CST

Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:27 pm to
The alabama fan base thinks rape is ok..a fan teabagged someone passed out and thought charges were stupid to be pressed. I saw it on a message board where alot of them said it.

you also pack a stadium for spring football...thats the most cultish thing in sports.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:27 pm to
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You can accuse me of whatever you want. I'm still going to accuse you of bloodlust until you start using some reason and logic.


I'm using plenty of reason and logic Mr. The NCAA Should Have No Power to Punish Anyone Because It's Not Perfect.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62651 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:27 pm to
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Alright if football isn't a big deal then why are you so worried about it?
Because the football program at Penn State knowingly allows child rapists. And child rape is something I'm strongly against.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:27 pm to
I haven't read this thread since page 3 this morning, but here's why innocent people(current players and coaches) are going to get punished.

The NCAA has to let it be known that the football coach can not be have more authority than the school administration, AND THE LOCAL POLICE DEPT. Joe Pa kept all of the allegations out of the public's eye by intimidating his "superiors" in the school office and also the local police department, who first got wind of Sandusky's pedophilia in 1998.

I don't find any fault with other athletic programs at Penn St, but the football program should receive the death penalty.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29329 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:28 pm to
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So yes, you're arguing the NCAA should never hand down a major punishment.


No, not really. By saying this is retarded, nobody is claiming that the NCAA is right every other time. Again, learn to differentiate. The NCAA's system is shite and rarely punishes those actually involved. This case is no different.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:28 pm to
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But to say their lives are over because of these sanctions is a bit of an over exaggeration.
I didn't say their lives would be over. And "over exaggeration" is redundant.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31145 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:28 pm to
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So yes, you're arguing the NCAA should never hand down a major punishment

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Whatever you say.

If that isn't what you are arguing then explain how the NCAA can punish for violations without it affecting anyone that wasn't directly involved.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:29 pm to
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I'm using plenty of reason and logic Mr. The NCAA Should Not Punish Innocent People Because They Are Innocent.
FIFY
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29329 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:29 pm to
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The NCAA has to let it be known that the football coach can not be have more authority than the school administration, AND THE LOCAL POLICE DEPT.


They really don't. Sounds to me like an admin and police department problem.

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Joe Pa kept all of the allegations out of the public's eye by intimidating his "superiors" in the school office and also the local police department, who first got wind of Sandusky's pedophilia in 1998.


Yes. He was the mob boss Come on.

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I don't find any fault with other athletic programs at Penn St, but the football program should receive the death penalty.


That'll teach Paterno and Sandusky!
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:30 pm to
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The alabama fan base thinks rape is ok..a fan teabagged someone passed out and thought charges were stupid to be pressed. I saw it on a message board where alot of them said it.

you also pack a stadium for spring football...thats the most cultish thing in sports.


Well I sure as hell didn't think it was ok. I sure as hell didn't think poisoning trees was ok either.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:30 pm to
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If that isn't what you are arguing then explain how the NCAA can punish for violations without it affecting anyone that wasn't directly involved.


He's just going to ask for names or say the FBI should handle it. Because apparently the ethical bylaws that the NCAA has set and agreed upon shouldn't ever be enforced.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29329 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:30 pm to
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If that isn't what you are arguing then explain how the NCAA can punish for violations without it affecting anyone that wasn't directly involved.


Fines and banning the coaches/players involved?

ETA: That would somewhat affect the innocent but at least you would be hammering the main suspects and not just a shite load of "maybes"
This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 4:32 pm
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:30 pm to
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Who are these people being punished? Football is not a God-given right. Football is a privilege.


A privilege from who? It takes a real liberal assclown like you to make a comment like that.

Why don't you let government punish you from all your hobbies and see how you like it when we tell you they were just privileges.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:32 pm to
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Well I sure as hell didn't think it was ok. I sure as hell didn't think poisoning trees was ok either.

but plenty did..and hell updyke is basically a cult hero around bama now..

wait..I used the world cult
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29329 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:32 pm to
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Because apparently the ethical bylaws that the NCAA has set and agreed upon shouldn't ever be enforced.



Holy shite can you read? NOBODY IS SAYING THERE SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHMENT. frick.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41284 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:32 pm to
I agree. Dont forget, PSU is a northeastern school, therefore incapable of committing any real sins. After all this talk, the NCAA is not going to drop the hammer on one of their favored programs - especially a B1G school. If this had occurred at a Southern school - especially an SEC school - what Rome did to Carthage would be child's play compared to what the NCAA would do. Penn State? Slap on the wrist.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62651 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:32 pm to
fightingtiger is just a troll, I think. Ignore him. These are guys are actually this uninformed or in denial or just have terribly misplaced priorities.
Posted by PowerTool
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Member since Dec 2009
23258 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:32 pm to
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You really are quite daft for your age. I may be young but I do have common sense. No one is saying they should get away with it. The job of prosecuting and punishing the men who facilitated this is for the police, not the NCAA.



Actually, police neither prosecute nor punish, if you want to be a smartass.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:32 pm to
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you also pack a stadium for spring football...thats the most cultish thing in sports.


Are you serious? More so, than say, the actual cult following that exists at State College?

Alabamas spring attendance has nothing to do with a cult following. There is just nothing else to do in the town.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:33 pm to
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ETA: That would somewhat affect the innocent but at least you would be hammering the main suspects and not just a shite load of "maybes"


You're assuming they're maybes because they were nailed with criminal charges.
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