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re: Penn State NCAA Sanctions thread - announcement at 8 CST
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:39 pm to Srbtiger06
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:39 pm to Srbtiger06
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Fines and banning the coaches/players involved?
They don't have the authority to levy fines. They can determine an athlete doesn't have eligibility to compete in NCAA athletics if they don't meet certain standards. I'm not sure if they can ban a coach, but they can limit their recruiting activities and impose other penalties.
But hey, banning Reggie Bush and Pete Carroll from the NCAA while they're in the NFL would have really sent the right message and was the fair way to handle the situation, right?
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:39 pm to Srbtiger06
So why are you upset with the punishment? An athletic department covered up criminal activity to continue to win football games.
IMO, that is worthy of major sanctions. Why do you disagree?
IMO, that is worthy of major sanctions. Why do you disagree?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:40 pm to TheSexecutioner
quote:We are all free to play college football? Not everyone gets to play college football. At at places where pedophiles are knowingly harbored, no one should play college football. They can go somewhere else, that's fine.
We our free to participate in hobbies
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:42 pm to genro
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If my favorite hobby was done at a place that willingly and knowingly harbored pedophiles, I would have no problem with them shutting it down and I can take my hobby elsewhere.
You are an idiot. That's irrelevant. You called football a privilege. It's not a privilege.
Great cases can be made for the football program being shut down but football being a privilege is not one of them.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:42 pm to Srbtiger06
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They're hung up on the emotional shite.
Pot meet kettle with your "but someone innocent may get hurt" line of reasoning.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:43 pm to MOT
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They can determine an athlete doesn't have eligibility to compete in NCAA athletics if they don't meet certain standards. I'm not sure if they can ban a coach, but they can limit their recruiting activities and impose other penalties.
They put a clause on Bruce Pearl and Jim Tressell.
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But hey, banning Reggie Bush and Pete Carroll from the NCAA while they're in the NFL would have really sent the right message and was the fair way to handle the situation, right?
Why should the NCAA have that kind of power? Really. They don't HAVE to do anything.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:44 pm to TheSexecutioner
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You are so dense. Not every single right is explicitly written in the constitution. We our free to participate in hobbies.
El oh el. Yes, you are free to join the NCAA and participate in college football. 15th amendment dude. It's right there.
This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:44 pm to Srbtiger06
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The NCAA's system is shite and rarely punishes those actually involved.
you mean the one's that are in the NFL? c'mon dipshit, the ncaa's system is about as good as can be expected considering it usually takes a long time to conduct the investigation. and believe me, the coaches that have been canned following the ncaa's findings tend to disagree with you. Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:45 pm to volfan30
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Former chair of NCAA infractions committee weighs in
He makes good points. However, the NCAA didn't investigate Baylor because a player was murdered either. But the murder investigation uncovered details that were NCAA violations, then their coach tried to cover up those violations and committed many more.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:45 pm to TheSexecutioner
quote:Every football coach ever disagrees with you.
You called football a privilege. It's not a privilege.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:45 pm to TemplarTheSaint
I hate the NCAA because of their inconsistency with penalties imposed. For that reason I have always thought the 6 major conferences would disban from NCAA and form a power conference that would come up with penalties that are more structured and defined.
I really am torn in this case though. I don't think the NCAA has a right to impose sanctions but the way PSU fans have defended JoePa has really made me hate PSU and wish the worst on them. I know it's irrational but it's how I think about the situation. God forbid that ever happen at LSU but if it did the last thing I would do is defend the ones involved.
I really am torn in this case though. I don't think the NCAA has a right to impose sanctions but the way PSU fans have defended JoePa has really made me hate PSU and wish the worst on them. I know it's irrational but it's how I think about the situation. God forbid that ever happen at LSU but if it did the last thing I would do is defend the ones involved.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:46 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Pot meet kettle with your "but someone innocent may get hurt" line of reasoning.
All I've gotten is "kids were anally raped". That sucks and all, but shutting the AD down will do nothing for them. Neither did removing the statue.
The difference is that the innocent weren't involved at all. The NCAA is punishing them for actions of people no longer associated with the program. They can't do anything with the actual people involved. Tough shite. There is no reason for them to do anything other than for the sake of appeasing the masses.
PLEASE justify that one.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:46 pm to genro
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We are all free to play college football? Not everyone gets to play college football. At at places where pedophiles are knowingly harbored, no one should play college football. They can go somewhere else, that's fine.
That doesn't make it a privilege.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:46 pm to TheSexecutioner
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You are an idiot. That's irrelevant. You called football a privilege. It's not a privilege.
Great cases can be made for the football program being shut down but football being a privilege is not one of them.
We hold these truths to be self evident. That all men are created equal and have the unalienable right to play college football. It's not a privilege, it's a right.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:47 pm to Srbtiger06
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Why should the NCAA have that kind of power? Really. They don't HAVE to do anything
What kind of power? The ability to make and enforce rules?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:48 pm to tigerpimpbot
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El oh el. Yes, you are free to join the NCAA and participate in college football. 15th amendment dude. It's right there.
What are you talking about?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:48 pm to LSU GrandDad
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you mean the one's that are in the NFL? c'mon dipshit, the ncaa's system is about as good as can be expected considering it usually takes a long time to conduct the investigation. and believe me, the coaches that have been canned following the ncaa's findings tend to disagree with you.
Yeah Pete Carroll is fricked. Bush is wiping his tears on millions. Tressell is devastated.
You're STILL ignoring the point. In this case, the NCAA CANNOT do a damn thing to those involved because they're in jail, dead, or being processed in the justice system. They're doing this just to appease the masses.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:48 pm to Srbtiger06
Does the athletic department's actions warrant major sanctions?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:50 pm to MOT
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What kind of power? The ability to make and enforce rules?
They have plenty of power but why should they? They're a "private entity" and all but they're being ridiculous with this one. The fact is they don't HAVE to do anything. The culprits aren't within their scope in this case so why do they have to do something?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 4:50 pm to Srbtiger06
quote:But his alma mater didn't get to go to a bowl game for two years! How could he count his millions and bang Kim Kardashian while having to deal with that?
Bush is wiping his tears on millions.
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