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re: Ouch, they said that no one would watch the Pop Tart Bowl without the Irish.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:09 pm to Raoul Stimulato
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:09 pm to Raoul Stimulato
Here’s the actual results:
Bob Davie
Lost 41-9 to Oregon State in Fiesta Bowl
Tyrone Willingham
never coached in a BCS Bowl game at ND
Charlie Weis
Lost Fiesta Bowl 34-20 to Ohio State
Lost Sugar Bowl 41-14 to LSU
Brian Kelly
Lost BCS national championship game to Alabama 42-14
Lost Fiesta Bowl to Ohio State 44-28
Lost Cotton Bowl to Clemson 30-3
Lost Rose Bowl to Alabama 31-14
Left ND because he said he “couldn’t win a national championship there”
Marcus Freeman
Lost Fiesta Bowl to Oklahoma State 37-35
CFP First Round win against Indiana 27-17
CFP Second Round win against Georgia 23-10
CFP Semifinal win against Penn State 27-24
Lost CFP National Championship Game to Ohio State 34-23 in a game that was over at halftime
3-8 in those games with most being blowout loses.
ND isn’t competitive or relevant on the big stage in modern times the numbers support this. When you dig into the actual numbers it proves that.
Bob Davie
Lost 41-9 to Oregon State in Fiesta Bowl
Tyrone Willingham
never coached in a BCS Bowl game at ND
Charlie Weis
Lost Fiesta Bowl 34-20 to Ohio State
Lost Sugar Bowl 41-14 to LSU
Brian Kelly
Lost BCS national championship game to Alabama 42-14
Lost Fiesta Bowl to Ohio State 44-28
Lost Cotton Bowl to Clemson 30-3
Lost Rose Bowl to Alabama 31-14
Left ND because he said he “couldn’t win a national championship there”
Marcus Freeman
Lost Fiesta Bowl to Oklahoma State 37-35
CFP First Round win against Indiana 27-17
CFP Second Round win against Georgia 23-10
CFP Semifinal win against Penn State 27-24
Lost CFP National Championship Game to Ohio State 34-23 in a game that was over at halftime
3-8 in those games with most being blowout loses.
ND isn’t competitive or relevant on the big stage in modern times the numbers support this. When you dig into the actual numbers it proves that.
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Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:28 pm to ronricks
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ronricks
Yes, Bob Davie, Ty Willingham and Charlie Weis were awful college football coaches, and Brian Kelly is a mediocre one. (And yet, all of them were better at ND than their other head coaching stops. Interesting, wonder why that is…).
Thanks for the info. You’re a true college football savant.
ETA: Claiming the championship game was “over” at halftime last year when it was a one-score game with OSU facing a 3rd-and-long with about 3 minutes left is a very liberal definition of the word.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:57 pm to ronricks
Notre Dame is living in the past, meanwhile they have more wins in the 12 team playoff against non-auto bids than the entire SEC combined.
In 4 years Marcus Freeman has never lost a game by 2 touchdowns. Bama has done it 4 times in the last 18 games (twice to teams with losing records).
In 4 years Marcus Freeman has never lost a game by 2 touchdowns. Bama has done it 4 times in the last 18 games (twice to teams with losing records).
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:59 pm to RoyalWilliams
I can just picture Don Draper:
“What if instead of the bowl being about the game, we made it about the pop-tart itself?”
“What if instead of the bowl being about the game, we made it about the pop-tart itself?”
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:03 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
What exactly has ND won since 1988? Tell us. Support your assertion with actual evidence and facts like I did.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:13 pm to RoyalWilliams
quote:
Marcus Freeman has never lost
He lost to:
Marshall
3-9 Stanford
Northern Illinois
Get out of here with this bullshite.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:18 pm to WildcatMike
It seems it didn't matter who was playing in the game. It was about seeing giant pop tarts. That's what college football bowl games have become. Weird
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:19 pm to ronricks
Last year they started the season beating a ranked SEC team on the road. Finished with a loss in the title game. In between had a 13 game winning streak, won the Orange Bowl, beat the SEC champ in the Sugar Bowl, and gave Indiana their last loss.
This year they got an active 10 game winning streak. Could beat any team in the country. If/when they lose they don’t embarrass themselves.
This year they got an active 10 game winning streak. Could beat any team in the country. If/when they lose they don’t embarrass themselves.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:24 pm to RoyalWilliams
quote:Sure if you're talking strictly 2025. Losing to the teams mentioned a couple of posts above yours is embarrassing yourself even if the margin isn't multiple touchdowns.
If/when they lose they don’t embarrass themselves.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:31 pm to Louie T
Good point, Freeman has shite the bed losing to bad teams. Two of those were in his first season, still bad.
I’d argue his teams get better as the season goes on. They were rolling against this year. Compared to how DeBoer’s teams have finished seasons at Bama, I don’t see how they are more relevant than Notre Dame, unless we look further in the past.
I’d argue his teams get better as the season goes on. They were rolling against this year. Compared to how DeBoer’s teams have finished seasons at Bama, I don’t see how they are more relevant than Notre Dame, unless we look further in the past.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:32 pm to RoyalWilliams
What have they won since 1988? Nothing. That was 38 years ago.
ND is a relic. It’s over for them they are relegated to whining and crying and thumping their chests over skipping the Pop Tart bowl. Think how pitiful that is.
ND is a relic. It’s over for them they are relegated to whining and crying and thumping their chests over skipping the Pop Tart bowl. Think how pitiful that is.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:33 pm to ronricks
quote:
Notre Dame is becoming irrelevant.
And yet there is a thread or more about them every couple of days on this board.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:34 pm to RoyalWilliams
Freeman is doing a great job there, so those losses are inexplicable when comparing to the results outside of those games. I suspect losing games to trash teams is a thing of the past for Freeman's ND.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:35 pm to lionward2014
We are laughing how irrelevant they have become and their delusional fanbase.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:42 pm to ronricks
quote:
We are laughing how irrelevant they have become and their delusional fanbase.
If they were irrelevant you wouldn’t be thinking about them. No one is starting threads about Rutgers, that’s what irrelevant is.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:46 pm to lionward2014
Rutgers is in the B1G. They aren’t an Independent which in modern times is like running a 1975 business model in 2026. ND has done this to themselves and can’t even make the playoffs with a handpicked schedule. It’s pathetic. ND is entitled to nothing. It’s not 1966 anymore. Those days are long over.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:00 pm to ronricks
Being an Independent is a tough business model for sure. It causes them to have to front load schedules and they don’t have conference fellows advocating for them in the committee. It cost them a spot in the playoff when they would have a legit chance to win it.
It has some pluses too, Last year they made a run and didn’t have to split their payout. They were able to opt out of their bowl game without having to pay any conference fines.
Ultimately it’s what they have done for over 100 years. Over the that time they have had periods of being relevant and irrelevant. If you don’t think we are in a relevant period right now you are kidding yourself.
It has some pluses too, Last year they made a run and didn’t have to split their payout. They were able to opt out of their bowl game without having to pay any conference fines.
Ultimately it’s what they have done for over 100 years. Over the that time they have had periods of being relevant and irrelevant. If you don’t think we are in a relevant period right now you are kidding yourself.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:27 pm to ronricks
quote:
Notre Dame is becoming irrelevant
So irrelevant that people can’t quit talking about how irrelevant they are.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:34 pm to ronricks
quote:
ronricks
You and fans like you are exactly why college football is the way it is now.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:42 pm to RoyalWilliams
quote:
It cost them a spot in the playoff when they would have a legit chance to win it.
The thing is there's no real basis for this opinion. It's based off of ND blowing out Navy and a mid-October win vs USC.
Nothing else on their schedule is noteworthy.
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