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re: OSU sets timetable for Meyer investigation
Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:09 am to buckeye_vol
Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:09 am to buckeye_vol
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I wonder if there is a PR aspect to it.
I'm sure this has something do with it regardless of their findings, but Urban is the only one on paid leave. If he told Gene Smith, which he insinuates he did, shouldn't he be on leave too?
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:09 am to mdomingue
He’s not going anywhere
Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:37 am to lsucoonass
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He’s not going anywhere
Also strongly suspect this is the case.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:46 am to mdomingue
they just want to let all the talk in the media die down, let the news cycle reset, and everyone forget and he's back to the sidelines.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:53 am to slackster
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Idk, why would it take 14 days to prove Urban reported it?
Fair point in this case, but in general it's fishy to set a time limit on an investigation.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:55 am to gsvar2004
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they just want to let all the talk in the media die down, let the news cycle reset, and everyone forget and he's back to the sidelines.
Trump did them a solid for sure.
Had they known what he was going to say Friday night they probably would have reinstated Urban and dropped the whole story.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:57 am to slackster
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Urban is the only one on paid leave. If he told Gene Smith, which he insinuates he did, shouldn't he be on leave too?
I still maintain none of this makes sense if he reported the issue like he claims he did.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:01 am to slackster
Two ways to view this:
Improper because they want to protect Meyer. Or, improper because they may want to fire him with cause, save money and move on.
It may be unfair to ask the university to shell out $50k-$100k for a 3rd party to do this, but in this case it may be warranted.
Hire 3rd party - look into this reporting business and also look into the abuse issues from UF, meaning find out if the same practices have taken place at OSU.
I suspect Project Veritas will have OSU players next. The reporting issue will be somewhat contentious, but if abuse is at all questionable, they can cut him loose for cause and he won't have a case.
I think in the end, OSU gives Meyer $1 milion, tells him to resign, and off he goes.
Improper because they want to protect Meyer. Or, improper because they may want to fire him with cause, save money and move on.
It may be unfair to ask the university to shell out $50k-$100k for a 3rd party to do this, but in this case it may be warranted.
Hire 3rd party - look into this reporting business and also look into the abuse issues from UF, meaning find out if the same practices have taken place at OSU.
I suspect Project Veritas will have OSU players next. The reporting issue will be somewhat contentious, but if abuse is at all questionable, they can cut him loose for cause and he won't have a case.
I think in the end, OSU gives Meyer $1 milion, tells him to resign, and off he goes.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:11 am to starsandstripes
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I suspect Project Veritas will have OSU players next. The reporting issue will be somewhat contentious, but if abuse is at all questionable, they can cut him loose for cause and he won't have a case.
Abuse or not, I think you are overestimating the teeth of Project Veritas and their report.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:03 pm to mister coffee
This whole thing makes no sense to me.
The way they are telegraphing all of this leads me to believe Urban will be cleared.
However, if that occurs, the #metoo people are going to absolutely destroy tOSU in public. The media is going to crap all over tOSU. People are going to protest.
Next... you know what happens next. Someone will leak a list of all the big money donors to tOSU athletics. Then, all the #metoo protesters will start attacking tOSU donors. They will call for boycotts of the donors, they will march in front of the homes of CEOs, etc.
Then, they will turn their sights on Mary Jo. When women turn their sights on another, it's bad.
No matter what tOSU does, unless they fire Urbs, a good number of the #metoo protesters will not accept the investigation results. However, if they did a legit investigation, a number of everyday people may be able to accept it, especially if it's clear Urbs did no wrong.
And even if he did nothing wrong legally, there is still the whole idea that he allowed a known wife beater to stay on staff, and only fired the guy when the public found out.
That doesn't sit well with me. If all you care about is winning, then why fire him at all? Tell everyone to have relations with themselves and keep the guy on staff.
The way they are telegraphing all of this leads me to believe Urban will be cleared.
However, if that occurs, the #metoo people are going to absolutely destroy tOSU in public. The media is going to crap all over tOSU. People are going to protest.
Next... you know what happens next. Someone will leak a list of all the big money donors to tOSU athletics. Then, all the #metoo protesters will start attacking tOSU donors. They will call for boycotts of the donors, they will march in front of the homes of CEOs, etc.
Then, they will turn their sights on Mary Jo. When women turn their sights on another, it's bad.
No matter what tOSU does, unless they fire Urbs, a good number of the #metoo protesters will not accept the investigation results. However, if they did a legit investigation, a number of everyday people may be able to accept it, especially if it's clear Urbs did no wrong.
And even if he did nothing wrong legally, there is still the whole idea that he allowed a known wife beater to stay on staff, and only fired the guy when the public found out.
That doesn't sit well with me. If all you care about is winning, then why fire him at all? Tell everyone to have relations with themselves and keep the guy on staff.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:10 pm to ThePTExperience1969
TitleX has nothing to do with this..... why do you keep brining up???
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:30 pm to slackster
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If he told Gene Smith, which he insinuates he did, shouldn't he be on leave too?
He never insinuating Gene Smith knew, he simply said he passed the info on. If it was a Title IX thing, that would not be to Gene Smith's office would it? I have no idea, I'm just saying he was intentionally vague on saying he "passed on" the Zack Smith allegations.
We all know that tOSU does not want to fire Meyer. This is simply an investigation to see how bad of shite they are in, and more importantly what else is out there that the media will likely find. If its not that bad and essentially what we currently know, they keep him.
The 2 week thing is also somewhat genius. Its long enough for it to get out of the news, especially with football ramping up.
They are hoping it gets out of the news, no one finds anything, and then they suspend Meyer for a game or two and move on.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:31 pm to MrBiriwa
14 days or two week notice to advertise the position and then pick the successor
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:33 pm to dukke v
You know OSU’s currently defending against 3 Title IX lawsuits? If OSU’s Title IX regulation was not complied with and the requisite procedure was not conducted regarding the 2015 allegations, they immediately become vulnerable to another Title IX lawsuit and consequently a reputation of a pattern of malfeasance which I presume the university wants to avoid at all costs, their brand is big enough to handle the short-Term public reaction if they fulfilled their legal obligation but Title IX and lawsuits are a whole different animal from a reputation perspective.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:43 pm to nicholastiger
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14 days
Is enough time for the public outrage to settle down.
I imagine it's enough time to further set up an Urban Meyer sexual harrassment charity organization.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:35 pm to mister coffee
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I've asked this a few times, but if Urb had informed the school about the allegations, why would they bother putting him on leave? Wouldn't this be an easy matter to sort out?
An insider on one of the Buckeye Boards (NOT Bucknuts) stated that when Meyer sat down with the power(s) that be after the story they did not like the language he used when speaking about the situation which prompted the suspension. This insider has proven to be in the know many times over when it comes to the inner workings of the football program.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:08 pm to mister coffee
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I've asked this a few times, but if Urb had informed the school about the allegations, why would they bother putting him on leave? Wouldn't this be an easy matter to sort out?
That's what doesn't make sense. If Urban told OSU like he says it should be a pretty simple thing for them to look up. There would be a paper trail.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:23 pm to Dr RC
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That's what doesn't make sense. If Urban told OSU like he says it should be a pretty simple thing for them to look up. There would be a paper trail.
Exactly. But he didn’t say he told them in 2015 he said “I followed proper protocols... and I did so regarding the 2015 incident.” But he didn’t fire him until July 23rd, 2018. So at the very least he kept a coach twice accused of domestic violence on staff for 3 years. It also needs to be asked if Urban told Ohio St. that Smith was arrested for domestic assault in 2009 when he hired him in 2012.
So if Urban knew about the 2015 incident AND told them in 2015, there would be a paper trail/investigation. Seeing as the accuser has stated she was never approached by anyone from Ohio St. regarding the incident it would be hard to see a scenario where an investigation into a woman allegedly beaten up by her husband was never spoken to by the investigators
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:33 pm to the_watcher
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Seeing as the accuser has stated she was never approached by anyone from Ohio St. regarding the incident
Her attorney was approached by an attorney representing Ohio State in 2015. It's already documented. What was discussed is attorney/client information so we'll never get that.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:39 pm to VABuckeye
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Her attorney was approached by an attorney representing Ohio State in 2015. It's already documented. What was discussed is attorney/client information so we'll never get that.
Had not seen that anywhere. Have a link? TIA
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