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re: Now that players are getting paid for NIL should they have to pay for tuition ?

Posted on 7/1/21 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 3:58 pm to
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In the real world, "free market" does not include getting stuff for free. If we're going to abolish the whole point of amateurism, then I don't see why athletic scholarships should still be given out.


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Let the athletes make their money. But don't tell me they still need a scholarship.


Umm you offer a full scholarship, whether its athletic or academic, because you want said individual to enroll in your school. To help persuade them, you attempt to minimize the financial burden of attending the school. If a university wants to stop giving athletic scholarships, thats fine. But expect to not get any good players anymore.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 3:59 pm to
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brightest


Hahahaha!
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:04 pm to
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stay relevant and make serious money for 4 years. Majority of them fade out. 4 year college stars have basically garaunteed publicity, and you don’t even have to produce content.


Yall act like being a star football player for 3-4 years is some mindless easy task anyone could do. Being an elite D1 star athlete is almost certainly more “work” than anyone in this thread did in 4 years of college.
Posted by CovingtonTigre
In your head Werder
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:07 pm to
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Being an elite D1 star athlete is almost certainly more “work” than anyone in this thread did in 4 years of college.


You don’t know me. My dominoes delivery job was hard! I got egged 2 different Halloween’s.
Posted by nolatrain504
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
989 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:09 pm to
I am almost certain it will be much much more than 20k a year. Also, about 1000$ a month comes in the form of a stipend every month. That’s 12k right there. Sign some autographs, promote some companies, even your slightly above avg player is going to be making upwards of 100k pre tax after it’s all said and done.

LSU put out today in a recruiting flyer that Ja’marr Chase would have made 500,000 JUST with Instagram and Twitter. What do you think he would have made with that PLUS other social media, appearances, autographs, jerseys , etc. every major team will have at LEAST 5-10 players at that level of money.

You won’t find that at school buddy. At least not in my time.
Posted by nolatrain504
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
989 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:12 pm to
What are you talking about? That comment was that they have garaunteed 3-4 years of free publicity. Social media influencers often times do not make it that long. That’s all that was about. LSU players are popular and have 100k+ followings on social media before even getting to campus

I played 4 years of college football. I will never discredit the work that goes into it at the SEC level. Hell even d2.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:17 pm to
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I am almost certain it will be much much more than 20k a year.


FOR A VERY SELECT FEW
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even your slightly above avg player is going to be making upwards of 100k pre tax after it’s all said and done.


Bull fricking shite dude. No chance.

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LSU put out today in a recruiting flyer that Ja’marr Chase would have made 500,000 JUST with Instagram and Twitter. What do you think he would have made with that PLUS other social media, appearances, autographs, jerseys , etc. every major team will have at LEAST 5-10 players at that level of money.

You won’t find that at school buddy. At least not in my time.




He is an exception. How many different ways does it need to be explained to you? There will be way more Ethan Laings than there will be Ja'marr Chases.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:22 pm to
If a non athlete can get a full academic scholarship, get paid for their talents, and trade in on their likeness rights if anyone wants to pay them for them but doesn't get their academic scholarship yanked why the hell should an athlete suddenly have to pay for their athletic scholarship?
Posted by nolatrain504
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
989 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:23 pm to
I have said before major colleges will have anywhere between 10-15 players doing 6figs.
LSU will likely have 4-5 a year doing jamarr chase numbers. Do you not think our 2019 team would have had 6-7 or more kids gross over 1mm or close to it? Hell canes might do that by itself with our top players.
Burrow, chase, Jefferson, Clyde, sting, delpit, etc.

You are deeply discrediting how creative they can get with these deals and how many they can have. There are so many ways they can go to make money. You have no idea how many agents will throw money in the form of deals to potential nfl prospects. Again, i was just making a statement. I am not AGAINST it

Also, why are you taking it so personal. It’s not that huge of a deal but you seem like you have some issues buddy.
Posted by nolatrain504
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
989 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:27 pm to
You missed the point as well. lol it’s not that they don’t work 100x harder than the avg student. It’s just saying that they have 3-4 years of garaunteed exposure and fans. Social media influencers typically do not last that long. Only a few do.

Also, I agree completely with the rest of what you said. I do think they acted off of emotion and pressure and did not think it out fully. This will be absolutely terrible for recruiting and they need to put some type of policy in place regarding recruiting and transfer portal / tampering
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:27 pm to
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I have said before major colleges will have anywhere between 10-15 players doing 6figs.
LSU will likely have 4-5 a year doing jamarr chase numbers. Do you not think our 2019 team would have had 6-7 or more kids gross over 1mm or close to it? Hell canes might do that by itself with our top players.
Burrow, chase, Jefferson, Clyde, sting, delpit, etc.


No way for Burrow and Clyde. Clyde wasn't even projected to start And even if I gave you all those guys, they are still the extreme minority.
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Also, why are you taking it so personal.


Not taking it personal at all.
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:54 pm to
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Is this all the fricking message board is going to be about now? What player is making what money?

It’s already fricking annoying.

Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130572 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 5:01 pm to
What should happen is all schools be like North Carolina and don't make players go to class at all.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112441 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 5:05 pm to
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But expect to not get any good players anymore.
Right, I'm baffled that dudes don't understand this.

LSU stops giving football scholarships. LSU plays a bunch of walk-ons and becomes the worst team in the SEC, adn eventually kicked out of the SEC and eventually a team no one gives a shite about. You know what LSU won't have, millions upon millions of dollars funneling back into the program, so why do they want to do away with scholarships?

And again, this isn't addressing why posters only want to do away with athletic scholarships, but still allow academic ones when those folks have always had the ability to do the same exact thing that athletes are now able to do with NIL.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 5:06 pm to
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That comment was that they have garaunteed 3-4 years of free publicity.


Did you get CTE from your playing days?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112441 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 5:08 pm to
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If a non athlete can get a full academic scholarship, get paid for their talents, and trade in on their likeness rights if anyone wants to pay them for them but doesn't get their academic scholarship yanked why the hell should an athlete suddenly have to pay for their athletic scholarship?

Honest question, has anyone tried to answer this yet?
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 5:51 pm to
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Now that players are getting paid for NIL should they have to pay for tuition ?
I think it’s a valid point . The players are making the schools money, and the schools are making the players money so getting a free ride for education seems outdated. The players wouldn’t be getting paid without the exposure from the schools .This is the same exposure that allows them the opportunity to go to the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc... The players on scholarship have gotten tuition free educations in exchange for playing sports . Why shouldn’t they pay now that they are getting paid?

*** Should they pay a certain percentage?
It’s all about business!


Literally no one cares, you're just butthurt the NCAA won't ruin players' careers anymore because they get a free meal outside of their academic institution, it's all horseshite. The NCAA clearly was founded with the greatest of intentions but, since the Board of Regents SCOTUS case, it's more than past time to let student-athletes receive some money for their abilities. They're old enough to sign a contract on their own, they're old enough to make money, let's be real.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 6:19 pm to
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What should happen is all schools be like North Carolina and don't make players go to class at all.


I mean hey it worked for UNC and nothing bad happened to them, it's all bullshite
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:05 pm to
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What should happen is all schools be like North Carolina and don't make players go to class at all.


That already happens
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
40001 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:08 pm to
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Honest question, has anyone tried to answer this yet?


You can’t. It’s a circle in need of squaring.
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