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re: Notre Dame to the ACC as a full member.. but NOT in Football
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:37 am to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:37 am to StraightCashHomey21
Let's be clear here, when it comes to the ACCs survival, I think this was a very strong move. People were bitching about the TV deal....this brings more money to the schools who play Notre Dame ($1M per) and we can now leverage this with ESPN for a better deal.
They get an ACC tie in for bowl games but I am willing to bet we get additional bowl tie ins with having the notre dame relationship.
They have been playing 4-5 of our schools lately anyway. This just brings the added benefit of having the money included as a part of the deal for both parties.
Let's face it, in the day when money is ruling college football and rivalries are getting broken and conferences are getting torn apart, the ACC had to do something of this nature to maintain its future. It's a good move. I would wager to say that the BIG10 and BIG12 would have loved to have this deal.
They get an ACC tie in for bowl games but I am willing to bet we get additional bowl tie ins with having the notre dame relationship.
They have been playing 4-5 of our schools lately anyway. This just brings the added benefit of having the money included as a part of the deal for both parties.
Let's face it, in the day when money is ruling college football and rivalries are getting broken and conferences are getting torn apart, the ACC had to do something of this nature to maintain its future. It's a good move. I would wager to say that the BIG10 and BIG12 would have loved to have this deal.
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 10:39 am
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:42 am to bbap
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we've already established in the offseason that sec teams make more off bowls than nd would if they went to a bcs bowl.
yup, and even then, they have to actually get to a bowl, which happens seldomly.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:43 am to Klark Kent
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yup, and even then, they have to actually get to a bowl, which happens seldomly.
right no bowl or a lesser bowl and they get smoked by sec teams in bowl revenue. bcs bowl and they still dont make as much.
i was surprised to learn that.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:45 am to Tigerbait337
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They will annually play 5 games vs ACC opponents
So nobody can say that they play a solid schedule anymore.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:46 am to tccdc
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As someone who played football at VT and love the Hokies...I am done with the ACC....
Either you are a full member or none at all...
We are the Big East now
took the words right out of my mouth
Hey Hokies welcome back to the Big East
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:47 am to dukke v
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So nobody can say that they play a solid schedule anymore.
PJ made me laugh.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:47 am to StraightCashHomey21
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I can see Pitt and Cuse staying on the ND slate for good now.
You wont be seeing them playing Clemson,VT and FSU on the regualr
Not sure of the details but: "Each ACC school is guaranteed to play Notre Dame in football once out of every three years." LINK
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:47 am to Tigerbait337
Love it.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:49 am to rocket31
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Not sure of the details but: "Each ACC school is guaranteed to play Notre Dame in football once out of every three years
you being a ND fan can probably agree that they will get their say on who the play more often, aka duke,wake,maryland etc....
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:50 am to Klark Kent
Mr.SEC's take:
Boom.
For all those who claimed Clemson and Florida State would definitely fly the ACC coop and join the Big XII along with Notre Dame, well, uh, the college landscape is about to shift in the opposite direction. In a big, big way.
Notre Dame will depart the Big East and head to the 14- (and soon to be 15-) school Atlantic Coast Conference. The Irish had played in the Big East in all sports but football. They had agreed to face three Big East members per year on the gridiron. In the ACC, Notre Dame will also be a full member in all sports except for football. But the Irish will play five ACC teams per season.
“We have monitored the changing conference landscape for many months and have concluded that moving to the ACC is the best course of action for us,” said Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick.
What’s it mean?
* The Big East just lost a little more lustre.
* The ACC just landed one of the biggest brands in sports. Florida State, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Miami and the other “football-first” schools in that league will love the opportunity to occasionally clash with the Irish at home and in South Bend.
* The ACC will also increase its exit fee for any school wanting out to a whopping $50 million. Again, for those who came here and blasted this site during the offseason because we dared to call all those “FSU/Clemson to the Big XII is a done deal” stories poppycock… we expect you to come back to our comment boxes and apologize as so many of you promised at the time to do. (Actually, no, we don’t think a single one of the folks who attacked this site will man-up and admit that they were totally wrong.)
* To add another pair of annual games to its schedule, Notre Dame will have to say bye-bye to some old foes. Purdue? Navy? Southern Cal? Michigan or Michigan State? Something’s gotta give.
* The Big XII will remain a 10-team league for the foreseeable future. For all the bluster of Texas AD DeLoss Dodds, he’ll never see Notre Dame join his school’s league. (Sorta like he can’t even see his own Longhorn Network on television.)
* You can also put to bed all those “Virginia Tech and NC State to the SEC” rumors that so many sites have floated out in order to grab pageviews. Ain’t happening. And, yes, we also called malarkey on those when they first started to percolate.
The college landscape is changing again. Just not in the way that many people expected.
Boom.
For all those who claimed Clemson and Florida State would definitely fly the ACC coop and join the Big XII along with Notre Dame, well, uh, the college landscape is about to shift in the opposite direction. In a big, big way.
Notre Dame will depart the Big East and head to the 14- (and soon to be 15-) school Atlantic Coast Conference. The Irish had played in the Big East in all sports but football. They had agreed to face three Big East members per year on the gridiron. In the ACC, Notre Dame will also be a full member in all sports except for football. But the Irish will play five ACC teams per season.
“We have monitored the changing conference landscape for many months and have concluded that moving to the ACC is the best course of action for us,” said Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick.
What’s it mean?
* The Big East just lost a little more lustre.
* The ACC just landed one of the biggest brands in sports. Florida State, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Miami and the other “football-first” schools in that league will love the opportunity to occasionally clash with the Irish at home and in South Bend.
* The ACC will also increase its exit fee for any school wanting out to a whopping $50 million. Again, for those who came here and blasted this site during the offseason because we dared to call all those “FSU/Clemson to the Big XII is a done deal” stories poppycock… we expect you to come back to our comment boxes and apologize as so many of you promised at the time to do. (Actually, no, we don’t think a single one of the folks who attacked this site will man-up and admit that they were totally wrong.)
* To add another pair of annual games to its schedule, Notre Dame will have to say bye-bye to some old foes. Purdue? Navy? Southern Cal? Michigan or Michigan State? Something’s gotta give.
* The Big XII will remain a 10-team league for the foreseeable future. For all the bluster of Texas AD DeLoss Dodds, he’ll never see Notre Dame join his school’s league. (Sorta like he can’t even see his own Longhorn Network on television.)
* You can also put to bed all those “Virginia Tech and NC State to the SEC” rumors that so many sites have floated out in order to grab pageviews. Ain’t happening. And, yes, we also called malarkey on those when they first started to percolate.
The college landscape is changing again. Just not in the way that many people expected.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:50 am to TulaneUVA
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People were bitching about the TV deal....this brings more money to the schools who play Notre Dame ($1M per) and we can now leverage this with ESPN for a better deal.
how can you leverage for a new deal 4 months after just getting a new one. That will be years down the road. The ACC has become the BE
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:52 am to TulaneUVA
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Notre Dame will depart the Big East and head to the 14- (and soon to be 15-) school Atlantic Coast Conferenc
question is: who is #16?
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:52 am to StraightCashHomey21
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you being a ND fan can probably agree that they will get their say on who the play more often, aka duke,wake,maryland etc....
If they have to play each school every three years, the Irish won't have much say, except for which years each are played. We'll probably want to play BC every year. Other than that, it will probably be a relatively constant rotation.
BTW, BE is dead.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:55 am to Buckeye Fan 19
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If they have to play each school every three years, the Irish won't have much say, except for which years each are played. We'll probably want to play BC every year. Other than that, it will probably be a relatively constant rotation.
add Pitt to that as well, then again there are only 3 schools they have to worry about from the acc and in reality would only have to play one of them every three years while the other 4 would be the likes of duke,wake and such.
Its not an upgrade at all but more of a money move and smart by ND and the death blow to the BE
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 10:57 am
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:56 am to StraightCashHomey21
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The ACC has become the BE
You can call it whatever you want. In the end all I want is a seat at the table.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:58 am to TulaneUVA
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You can call it whatever you want. In the end all I want is a seat at the table.
you still would be left out since ND is not a football member
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:59 am to rocket31
Watch the ACC try and sway Vanderbilt. The SEC would need to add a private school so that all the institutions wouldn't be public institutions (and thus make the conference have to comply with official requests for records).
If Vandy were to leave, who would the SEC try to add in their place?
If Vandy were to leave, who would the SEC try to add in their place?
Posted on 9/12/12 at 11:03 am to StraightCashHomey21
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you being a ND fan can probably agree that they will get their say on who the play more often, aka duke,wake,maryland etc....
thats not how the math works...
14 other teams in the ACC
and since ND needs to play 15 games vs ACC in 3 years, that means they will all have to be rotated equally. .
Posted on 9/12/12 at 11:04 am to CrazyTigerFan
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Watch the ACC try and sway Vanderbilt.
Wow, interesting. I overlooked that scenario!!
On the surface, it seems like that would be best for both parties (SEC and ACC) if Vandy parted ways
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 11:06 am
Posted on 9/12/12 at 11:05 am to rocket31
quote:don't see how vanderbilt would benefit from it though..
Would be best for both parties (SEC and ACC) if Vandy parted ways.
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