re: Non saints fans, do you think the NFL is rigged?

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’ll frick your bitch arse up

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sure you would

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Hell no. You would need way too many people to keep quote for that shite to be true. Only a stupid person would believe it is fixed.

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It’s truly mind boggling that anyone with an IQ greater than their shoe size would believe that it’s rigged. Just look at the reaction from New Orleans this week, the governor and some well known people like Harry Connick making statements, some clown is suing. Yet in 50+ years no one has ever said anything, sued, leaked documents showing this? Utah went undefeated and you had Senator threatening the BCS but no one has ever brought suit against pro sports? Really?

Next just looking at the Saints-Rams game in particular if you were rigging a game is THAT what you’d do? Wait until 3rd down and NOT call Pass interference? As many a person has pointed out the Saints not only had chances but kicked FG that gave them the lead with 1:40 left. What if they stopped the Aranda? Or the Rams turned it over or if they missed the FG? Some say it would be stupid if a billion dollar industry wasn’t rigged, yet they think THATS what they’d do? And keep it secret for over 50 years?

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Even if they get busted, they lose nothing. Risk vs Reward. No risk, huge reward.
uhhhhhhhh what? The very second they get busted the entire integrity of the league disappears and the NFL completely falls apart. So yea, totally worth it

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Further, there’d probably be legal implications if it turned out any pro league was fixing games.

Either way, it would be the death of the league. To think otherwise is asinine.

A friend was a bookie for over 33 yrs, working out of Vegas and then Chicago...according to him the unofficial "illegal gambling" capital of the country. He's been saying for yrs that while the league is not fixed....from the league office level...it has been dirty for decades. Two main areas the big money bookies have used for a long time are the end of the bench players, usually young desperate players and the refs. Those players are "helped out" for chump change and then once they are hooked, are semi blackmailed into providing more and more detailed inside information,often told to do..or not do..this or that on special teams where most contribute.As for the refs, all he would say is refs are "studied" for yrs, info collected over a period of time, looking for any perceived weakness/vulnerability, that info to be used down the road. FWIW. It's a billion dollar industry as it stands alone. Look at how much is bet each and every week. That amount dwarfs the former.

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It’s truly mind boggling that anyone with an IQ greater than their shoe size would believe that it’s rigged. Just look at the reaction from New Orleans this week, the governor and some well known people like Harry Connick making statements, some clown is suing. Yet in 50+ years no one has ever said anything, sued, leaked documents showing this? Utah went undefeated and you had Senator threatening the BCS but no one has ever brought suit against pro sports? Really?

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How many companies do illegal and immoral things daily that everyone pretty much collectively ignores?

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Next just looking at the Saints-Rams game in particular if you were rigging a game is THAT what you’d do? Wait until 3rd down and NOT call Pass interference? As many a person has pointed out the Saints not only had chances but kicked FG that gave them the lead with 1:40 left. What if they stopped the Aranda? Or the Rams turned it over or if they missed the FG? Some say it would be stupid if a billion dollar industry wasn’t rigged, yet they think THATS what they’d do? And keep it secret for over 50 years?

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Eh, it isn't like Goodell was in the guy's ear telling him not to make that call. That's for sure. Or even that they were told to make sure the Rams win.

What if they have data about all refs in the league and who is likely to make what kinds of calls or benefit certain kinds of teams, or even players? I mean, The Jordan Effect was documented enough. It's also documented that home teams get calls, that refs DO have biases to certain kinds of teams and coaches, etc. There are all sorts of ways that they may not even have to say "let the Rams win."

I'm not even saying that game specifically was rigged, but these are guys who will do anything to save a few hundred thousand on taxes. You really think they won't find and exploit any angle, within reason, to maximize revenue, especially when they invest in something?

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Rigged as like WWE pre-planned? No

Rigged as in an agenda and bias? Absolutely

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It isn't a conspiracy. It's a business.

If you ran a multi-billion dollar business and there was an outcome coming where you had a choice: Increased exposure in an area of 13 million people or greater exposure in an area of 1.2 million. And that 13 million is mostly green field for growth where you've placed NEW investments, What's your choice?

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JFC... if this was the conspiracy don't you think the bears would've won a super bowl more recently than 85? And la would have won enough to keep their teams? shite, green bay won two in the past 25 years. The level of stupidity in your argument is mind boggling.

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There is no company who’s entire business is based on complete fraud that hasn’t been caught.

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And why would the NFL manipulating the season, not necessarily fixing a game, mean their business is based on a fraud.

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And many pay fines, face consequences for minor violations, you just may not hear about it.

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Sure, and many don't. The Red Cross has seen all sorts of problems - obscuring donations, CEO and Director Pay, Backpay problems, etc. - for the past 6 years and they are doing fine. If a non-profit org doing "good" ends up maximizing revenue in all sorts of ways for the stakeholders, you really think the NFL isn't?

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I mean if you want to find conspiracies you can, doesn’t make it true.

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A business using data to maximize profit is not a conspiracy. That's how a business works. The NFL is a product.

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Of course, why would you think that would include rigging games Or assigning refs to “manipulate” a certain outcome? They sell the rights to the SB with the TV packages. It’s paid years in advance. The ad prices are set and ads sold well in advance as well. The Super Bowl has been the highest rated TV for decades there is no match up that would jeopardize that. It’s not a sport driven by stats like basketball. There is literally no reason for them to fix games. If anything a play like this does more harm. It was a bad call, it’s not rigged there’s no reason to

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I don't necessarily think they fix many games directly, as in "make a call on a result" or pre-plan said result. And the end goal isn't the Super Bowl. It doesn't end with that, that's just the next event. But you can't deny there isn't increased revenue after the Super Bowl if the Rams ARE involved, regardless of result of the SB.

The call will do little long term harm to the NFL, that's why they fined the player and basically admitted that it was a bad no call. Probably agree to disagree, but there's literally no chance that the NFL is the only pure multi-billion dollar org on this planet not sacrificing some integrity for maximized profit. No way.