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re: No way in hell will this be taken seriously
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:11 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:11 pm to buckeye_vol
But it's ok to rip Jordan for losing a series he dropped a record 69 in? Another double standard.
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:12 pm to Madking
quote:It's not twisting to add information to a unnecessarily simple fact.
Lol I love how you guys twist whatever fact you find contrary to your narrative to make it look favorable on him. Never has there been more double standards applied to a comparison.
Kobe played poorly in their first finals, but he still has a Championship to show for it. So when LeBron plays far better and loses, then it shows that there is a lot more to it.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:13 pm to aib799
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Even if the Warriors win the title the objective person would realize that best regular season record doesn't automatically equate to best team ever. I don't necessarily think the 96 Bulls were the best ever either. Too many factors to just go with most wins. Most successful regular season team every, yeah I will give them that.
I agree, and didn't mean to suggest I necessarily believed them to be the best ever. But it's reasonable to think a lot of people would consider them to be, based on that record.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:13 pm to Madking
quote:Nobody is ripping him. We're just showing that it's ridiculous to ignore losses before the Finals.
But it's ok to rip Jordan for losing a series he dropped a record 69 in? Another double standard.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:13 pm to aib799
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Majority of objective basketball critics and fans have this figured out already. Maybe you are behind the curve on that one.
Better statement would be that we're trying to figure out where Lebron fits in top 5.
That argument for Jordan almost exclusively relies on his 6 championships. What he did as an individual basketball player on the court isn't nearly as decided as you're implying.
Jordan was a better midrange shooter and perimeter defender. Every other way to measure an individual player leans to LeBron, yet we put Jordan at #1 because of how the Bulls played.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:17 pm to buckeye_vol
But it's ok to ignore Lebrons losses before finals.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:17 pm to Madking
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But it's ok to rip Jordan for losing a series he dropped a record 69 in? Another double standard.
No, it's not. We can see what he did and we know his team couldn't rise to the occasion. When that happens, it makes no sense to criticize the individual.
We can criticize 2011 Finals LeBron all day, but most everything else is tough to pin on him.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:18 pm to Madking
quote:Nobody had said that, in fact, we are actually arguing just that.
But it's ok to ignore Lebrons losses before finals.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:19 pm to slackster
That's totally false there are plenty of other ways and I love how you guys ignore that he had to make 2 super teams to even be a factor. Jordan never teamed up with Isaah Thomas and Karl Malone he never had to add Clyde Drexler and Patrick Ewing to win. If he had hed've won 10 or 11 times at least maybe more.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:24 pm to Madking
quote:No. But he had Scottie Pippen.
Jordan never teamed up with Isaah Thomas and Karl Malone he never had to add Clyde Drexler and Patrick Ewing to win.
quote:Well lebron never played with the level of players you're bringing up, but if he played with MJ's teammates, he would have likely won quite a few championships too.
If he had hed've won 10 or 11 times at least maybe more.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:26 pm to Madking
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That's totally false there are plenty of other ways
Go down the list of tangible, quantifiable ways a basketball player can be measured. LeBron will lead in most. Jordan gets the nod because of intangibles, which doesn't bother me because it feels like Jordan was better IMO too. However, I think I'm swayed by the team success, the blow up in his popularity off the court, the Dream Team, etc.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:26 pm to slackster
Just not true
Posted on 5/11/17 at 1:20 am to buckeye_vol
Lmao Lebron wouldve never even reached a final if he was in Jordan's place not one. Besides the 07 team Lebrons has played on allstar teams while Jordan played with one other allstar his entire career. You guys will say anything no matter how insane it is. You're seriously trying to comapare Lebrons supporting cast to MJs and are serious about it lmfao!!
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 1:46 am
Posted on 5/11/17 at 4:48 am to Madking
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Besides the 07 team Lebrons has played on allstar teams
Bosh missed much of the '12 playoff run. The Heat still made the finals.
Love missed all but the first round of the '15 playoff run. Kyrie was in and out of the lineup in the second and third rounds before going out for good in the finals. The Cavs still made the finals and won two games against a far superior team.
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Jordan played with one other allstar his entire career.
Horace Grant made an all-star game and was named to four all-defensive teams.
B.J. Armstrong made an all-star game.
Dennis Rodman made two all-star games, eight all-defensive teams, two all-NBA teams, and was defensive player of the year twice.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 6:57 am to Madking
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Jordan never teamed up with Isaah Thomas and Karl Malone he never had to add Clyde Drexler and Patrick Ewing to win.
Not sure I would compare Chris Bosh and Kevin Love to Patrick Ewing and Karl Malone, but OK.
I would also disagree that LeBron James formed a "super team" in Cleveland. Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving were very good players, but career losers prior to teaming with LeBron. The Cavs record speaks for itself without him on the floor.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 7:26 am to imraged
Horace Grant nor BJ Armstrong ever made an allstar team while a teammate of Micheal Jordan. Dennis Rodman's last all star game was 1992. Scottie Pippen was the only allstar that Micheal Jordan played with in his entire career that's "1" total.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 7:38 am
Posted on 5/11/17 at 7:35 am to hoopsgalore
Their previous records have zero to do with it and look at those players numbers they're very comparable to the guys I mentioned. Why do you guys do this you makeup some excuse like they played on bad teams yet Wade was an NBA champion and finals MVP and scoring champ who was arguable every bit as good as Lebron maybe better at the time they teamed up. Could you imagine if Jordan would've teamed up with Hakeem or Magic?
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 7:50 am
Posted on 5/11/17 at 7:47 am to Madking
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Horace Grant nor BJ Armstrong ever made an allstar team while a teammate of Micheal Jordan.
Michael retires and Grant and Armstrong become all stars immediately. Pippen finishes 3rd in the MVP voting. Sounds like Jordan was in the way.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 7:49 am to Madking
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Horace Grant nor BJ Armstrong ever made an allstar team while a teammate of Micheal Jordan
Making the all-star team is heavily dependent on volume numbers and they were third/fourth options on a team with the lead guy taking 25+ shots a game. Neither was any lesser of a player for it; in fact Grant's best year of his career was probably '92 as he put up high marks in basically every advanced statistic (all better than any year Bosh had with LeBron on the Heat) on top of great defense.
You also didn't address the fact that LeBron has made the finals twice with one or both of his all-star teammates injured.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 7:51 am to slackster
Lmfao lmfao you really will say anything no matter how insane it is nomatter how wrong it is.
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