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NIL - And What Should Have Happened
Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:26 am
Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:26 am
What should have happened is to take some of the TV money and pay/invest it for the players. The idea being something like:
Fr - $20K
Soph - $40K
Jr - $80K
Sr - $160K
Graduation on time bonus - $50K
So every player who stays all four years and graduates on time leaves school with $350K.
You can argue over the amounts and scale and bonuses and penalties but you get the idea. IMO, I would impose a transfer penalty of some sort to discourage transfers.
And it would still need to address RSs and early graduation.
The game I loved so much for so long has changed and for the most part not for the better. The OT change was for the better but that's about it.
Fr - $20K
Soph - $40K
Jr - $80K
Sr - $160K
Graduation on time bonus - $50K
So every player who stays all four years and graduates on time leaves school with $350K.
You can argue over the amounts and scale and bonuses and penalties but you get the idea. IMO, I would impose a transfer penalty of some sort to discourage transfers.
And it would still need to address RSs and early graduation.
The game I loved so much for so long has changed and for the most part not for the better. The OT change was for the better but that's about it.
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Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:58 am to AlwysATgr
As the topic of NIL has been beaten death here, it still has to be pointed out that the school/conference/ncaa is not paying the players.
NIL is private contracts between player and payer. It's not like the court was working with ncaa and players to arbitrate a solution. It's about freedom to contract.
What you're proposing would be separate from NIL, and a weak attempt at compromise to save the 'game you grew up loving that is now dead.' Penalizing players financially for transferring will never fly.
NIL is private contracts between player and payer. It's not like the court was working with ncaa and players to arbitrate a solution. It's about freedom to contract.
What you're proposing would be separate from NIL, and a weak attempt at compromise to save the 'game you grew up loving that is now dead.' Penalizing players financially for transferring will never fly.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:41 am to minimal
quote:
minimal
At the start of CFB history, players were paid to play. By the schools. No need to point out the NIL model. What I suggested is a wholly different paradigm, would obviate NIL, and is a moot point now.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:52 am to AlwysATgr
Opinions are like assholes.
You know the rest
You know the rest
Posted on 7/9/22 at 5:51 am to AlwysATgr
And you still have the problem of SCOTUS' ruling on NIL. Which has nothing to do with what you are talking about except that there is money involved.
Could the promise of 20K have headed off the guys who filed suit hoping for million dollar paydays? I'd say unlikely is an understatement.
Anyway, you can't unring a bell. TIme to give it a rest.
Could the promise of 20K have headed off the guys who filed suit hoping for million dollar paydays? I'd say unlikely is an understatement.
Anyway, you can't unring a bell. TIme to give it a rest.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:33 am to mdomingue
quote:SCOTUS did not rule on NIL.
And you still have the problem of SCOTUS' ruling on NIL.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:35 am to AlwysATgr
quote:The only way this works is if the players are considered employees and are permitted to unionoze and collectively bargain for it. And if they do that, the numbers will be a lot higher than what you propose.
What should have happened is to take some of the TV money and pay/invest it for the players.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:39 am to AlwysATgr
Or players can get paid fair market price for their services because we live in a free country.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 7:37 am to AlwysATgr
I actually have to hand it to Gordon McKernan. He is doing NIL the right way by paying the players for use of their NIL on billboards, advertising, etc.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 8:16 am to AlwysATgr
Telling Leonard Fournette he’s with 1/4 Jamie Keehn in 2015 is not a system that works.
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 8:17 am
Posted on 7/9/22 at 8:47 am to AlwysATgr
quote:
What should have happened is to take some of the TV money and pay/invest it for the players.
What you are missing is that NIL does not have any connection to the school income. It allows the athlete the opportunity to make money on his NIL through outside sources...
It was never meant to pay players to attend and play. Even without the direct connection to the institution direct pay for play is what it has evolved into.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:40 pm to AlwysATgr
Anything would be better than the current Wild West NIL/transfer system.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:41 pm to GetmorewithLes
quote:
It was never meant to pay players to attend and play. Even without the direct connection to the institution direct pay for play is what it has evolved into.
Anybody with half a brain could see this coming.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:41 pm to AlwysATgr
If it would be limited to that it would be in violation of the Supreme Court decision that made NIL possible. Restraint of trade.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:42 pm to AlwysATgr
RIP College football
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:42 pm to AlwysATgr
Schools do not facilitate nil. They can’t just give out TV money
How do we still not know what NIL is
How do we still not know what NIL is
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:55 pm to Lester Earl
RPO is the read option
Posted on 7/9/22 at 5:19 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Schools do not facilitate nil. They can’t just give out TV money
How do we still not know what NIL is
Read the OP and respond to that, not some mythical argument not being made.
NIL is now in effect. I don't see it going away. It will morph and evolve but it's here to stay.
The CFB as we knew it is decaying. At least I got to experience its golden years.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 5:43 am to AlwysATgr
Different than NIL (which basically just means you have the right to be employed).
With all of the NIL deals, I expected to start seeing commercials, jerseys and shoes and stuff.
With all of the NIL deals, I expected to start seeing commercials, jerseys and shoes and stuff.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 12:29 pm to minimal
quote:Yeah, the actual legal issue goes back to the UCLA basketball player (I forget his name) who raised a stink about EA Sports, and their video games. Claimed the game was using the players 'Name, Image or Likeness' to sell their products... which they were. Wanted money, which they didn't get.
As the topic of NIL has been beaten death here, it still has to be pointed out that the school/conference/ncaa is not paying the players.
NIL is private contracts between player and payer. It's not like the court was working with ncaa and players to arbitrate a solution. It's about freedom to contract.
What ended up happening was that almost ALL video sports games with an NCAA twist got canned, to avoid the legal hassle.
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