re: NCAA loses ability to enforce NIL policy in Tennessee and Virginia

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Judges and Congress have ruined college football.

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Congress literally hasn’t done anything. It’s all the courts.

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always wondered why these college presidents feel loyal to the NCAA.

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The membership of the NCAA is comprised of the college presidents. It was created by them, and they vote on every decision. The people that work for the NCAA were either hired or appointed by the presidents. If they disband the NCAA and make another group, they will just have to do a lot more paperwork to have the same issues.

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None of the universities NEED football… and if they do it’s pretty sad. Supposedly most programs lose money and LSU is the exception and not the norm

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Football itself is a huge cash cow. But most athletic departments as a whole lose money. Football revenue subsidizes all the other sports. If you shut down football, D1 athletic departments would collapse because they’d lose tens of millions a year in football profit that fund damn near everything else besides men’s basketball

The NCAA is being big leagued by the courts at every turn and people act like they are at fault for that. They can’t do anything more really more and that’s the states’/Feds’ fault.

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None of the universities NEED football… and if they do it’s pretty sad

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Football serves as a way to get a school’s name out there by raising visibility.


Similar things happen for basketball, as I believe applications go up for schools like George Mason when they serve as a bracket buster.

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This “players are going to unionize” talk does not make sense now. The players are getting money in ways and amounts not seen before, why unionize? In order to gain what….to make some old guys on the SECRant feel better because some sense of order will be enforced?

The fact that college football is hugely popular, is awash in money, and the main protagonists in college football (the players) were only getting a paltry amount of that money for decades put us in this situation. Now that the dam is breaking and large sums of that money is flowing to the players via NIL, it is laughable that the “baws” on this board have turned into a bunch of pearl clutching traditionalists saying, “but loyalty!,……but they get a free dorm room!,…….but they get …..”

The main reason people are so butt hurt about this is that they think since the fans “pay the bills” and support the programs so strongly, their interests and desires should be paramount and players should be happy and satisfied to basically be peons and gladiators putting their asses on the line for the fans’ enjoyment.

And the fans’ interests and desires are not being considered here, and will never be considered here ever again.

Fans quote the value of a scholarship, etc., which is probably legitimately astronomical in their frame of reference for dealing with things, but in the reality of how much money is floating around in the sport today is microscopic.

This has always, under the minutiae of federal law, which doesn’t give three cacas about the competitive sports aspect, been a house of cards that was destined to collapse once the right challenge was filed in the right venue.

Absent a contractual situation, which is where I think we’re headed whether it specifically labels the players as employees or not, there is nothing that can be done to restrain players’ earnings from their talents or their ability to take their talents elsewhere. Tuberville who isn’t objective is the only person yapping otherwise in Congress, and I will note to you that the last Supreme Court ruling relevant to this was 9-0 for the players.

I don’t disagree with anyone who says “it’s destroyed college football as it was.” It absolutely has. But it is what it is. Eventually it will fall into some type of equilibrium and fans can either watch or not watch.

And I think at the end of the day most will keep watching because despite all the big talk I think they want to see elite players out there wearing their school’s jersey, even if it’s transitory, rather than taking it to D3 or intramural which is the only way to return the old order.

Again, this was the inevitable result of this becoming a zillion dollar business, but everyone who was popping their buttons as the contracts kept getting larger couldn’t see it.

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The main reason people are so butt hurt about this is that they think since the fans “pay the bills” and support the programs so strongly, their interests and desires should be paramount and players should be happy and satisfied to basically be peons and gladiators putting their asses on the line for the fans’ enjoyment.

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I'm sure some fans are just that way. But no fan is just one way.

There are plenty, including myself, who have completely accepted the pay-for-play model. Now what do we get for our money?

Loyalty based on school colors? No, that's the old regime. How about players looking for certain schools teaching particular curriculums? With these vagabonds hitting the magic portal, probably not.

What do we want for all our investments these days? Accountability. You know, the stuff the rest of us have to perform regardless of our walk in life. Until these players are "accountable" to the team they are getting paid by this will not work.

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Judges and Congress have ruined college football.

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While I get the sentiment, the other takeaway is that the NCAA was operating illegally for a very long time.