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re: My biggest problem with following soccer or the World Cup.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 10:51 am to sgallo3
Posted on 6/26/26 at 10:51 am to sgallo3
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For what gain?
precision. Not being beholden to some random time kept out of the eyes of the public.
Its the stupidest fricking shite ever. Oh here's 5 minutes. Trust us
Just stop the clock when necessary and the time ends on time.
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People are complaining about the hydration breaks and your solution is we should add more stoppages where they can insert ads.
Why would there be more stoppages?
This post was edited on 6/26/26 at 10:53 am
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:13 am to Fun Bunch
quote:But it’s not really random. If you’ve watched enough soccer, you know exactly when the whistle is about to be blown. You develop a feel for the game and every experienced soccer viewer knows the moment in the game when the whistle is coming. It may seem odd to you, and it was to me when I was new to the sport.
Not being beholden to some random time kept out of the eyes of the public.
But once you develop the feel for the game, the full time whistle is so natural.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:16 am to Fun Bunch
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Why would there be more stoppages?
You are arguing for more precise time. That would involve stopping the clock every time the ball is kicked out or a player is hurt or someone is fouled.
When you stop the clock, they insert ad breaks (see the new "hydration breaks" created for this world cup and the ~$800 million in ad revenue they will generate in the US alone).
With a running clock like soccer has, there isnt normally a chance to insert ad breaks during the game.
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If you’ve watched enough soccer, you know exactly when the whistle is about to be blown.
Exactly. When the clock runs past the +7 minutes, the ref gives the team with the ball their final attacking chance and if the defense is able to gain possession or clear the ball out, the whistle is blown.
In a 90+ minute game where the clock is running we dont need a precise ending down to the tenth of a second where the offense tries to rush an attack to get the ball across the goalline before the clock hits zero. Its more similar to baseball and coming down to the final out. That out happens when the defense stops the attack.
This post was edited on 6/26/26 at 11:20 am
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:22 am to sgallo3
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You are arguing for more precise time. That would involve stopping the clock every time the ball is kicked out or a player is hurt or someone is fouled.
Why would this be any different than what they are doing now
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When you stop the clock, they insert ad breaks
Why would they do that? Why would that be any different than what they are doing now? Here's the solution: don't do that
This is the stupidest shite I have ever heard
When a player is moaning and writhing on the ground, stop the clock but do exactly what you are doing now.
When the refs are reviewing a play stop the clock and do exactly what you are doing now
Restart the clock when the ball goes back into play
No such thing as "overage" time.
Nothing else would change whatsoever except for arbitrary bullshite
This post was edited on 6/26/26 at 11:23 am
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:25 am to PrimeTime Money
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But it’s not really random. If you’ve watched enough soccer, you know exactly when the whistle is about to be blown. You develop a feel for the game and every experienced soccer viewer knows the moment in the game when the whistle is coming. It may seem odd to you, and it was to me when I was new to the sport.
But once you develop the feel for the game, the full time whistle is so natural.
You realize that your "feel" is subjective completely
Time is the time. The game is 90 minutes. The clock stops every time the ball is not in play and then restarts when it is. The game ends at exactly minute 90
Any other argument is just "we've done it this way"
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:28 am to sgallo3
quote:except not at all since baseball has explicit and non subjective endings to their games and you don't see an ump give another team an extra out because theres a runner on 3rd
Its more similar to baseball and coming down to the final out
This post was edited on 6/26/26 at 11:31 am
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:33 am to WestCoastAg
Can you imagine if in American Football the refs were just like here's an extra 5 minutes, trust us
and then that 5 minutes goes by and they are like "psyche, keep going" because one team is in the redzone
its totally absurd
and then that 5 minutes goes by and they are like "psyche, keep going" because one team is in the redzone
its totally absurd
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:33 am to Fun Bunch
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Any other argument is just "we've done it this way"
If it aint broke dont fix it
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:34 am to sgallo3
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If it aint broke dont fix it
Its broke.
its not accurate, subjective, arbitrary, and can lead to games being fixed.
This isn't 1967
We have the technology. Stop the clock. The game ends at minute 90
The end
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:35 am to Fun Bunch
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When the refs are reviewing a play stop the clock and do exactly what you are doing now
You are making my point for me. What happens when they stop the clock in the nfl, nba, etc to review a play? Commercial break. Soccer fans dont want clock stoppages because we dont want commercial breaks.
FIFA made a rule you couldnt have commercial breaks going when the hydration break ended and Fox broke it the first day of the world cup.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:35 am to sgallo3
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You are making my point for me. What happens when they stop the clock in the nfl, nba, etc to review a play? Commercial break. Soccer fans dont want clock stoppages because we dont want commercial breaks.
ok
Don't do commercial breaks
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:40 am to sgallo3
quote:we just want our leagues names be those commercials for us
Soccer fans dont want clock stoppages because we dont want commercial breaks.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:45 am to WestCoastAg
I am perplexed here
Just don't do commercial breaks when the player is moaning and writhing on the ground like he's been shot with 9mm in the nutsack
Its that easy
Change nothing whatsoever about what you are doing now except...stopping the clock?
Just don't do commercial breaks when the player is moaning and writhing on the ground like he's been shot with 9mm in the nutsack
Its that easy
Change nothing whatsoever about what you are doing now except...stopping the clock?
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:46 am to Fun Bunch
Like basketball somehow has a commercial break every single time the clock stops? Or football? Like what
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:50 am to WestCoastAg
"THIS PLAYER GOING OUT OF BOUNDS IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY ARBYS WE HAVE THE MEATS"
Posted on 6/26/26 at 12:45 pm to Morpheus
I don’t have a problem with them allowing the throw in at the end of the game that led to the score. My issue is that the same ref ended the first half where we had the ball in the same scenario.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 1:02 pm to midnight_chopper
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My issue is that the same ref ended the first half where we had the ball in the same scenario.
yeah quite a few people had an issue with that
Posted on 6/26/26 at 2:48 pm to Morpheus
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Think I’m just being unreasonable, but I like games I can see how much time is left.
Well, this isn't one of those games.
I find it crazy how inflexible some people are. It's just different rules that aren't governed strictly by a time limit...like baseball...or golf...or bowling...or tennis...or motorsports...etc.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 2:56 pm to Fun Bunch
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Can you imagine if in American Football the refs were just like here's an extra 5 minutes, trust us
Can you imagine in American football, a player goes down and then the TV announcers say something like, "We'll be right back after this injury timeout." Me either.
I'm not saying you're outright wrong about stoppage time, but there's no way you can't recognize that as soon as they add hard stops to the clock commercial breaks will follow. It's literally already happened with the water breaks and they don't even hard stop the clock during those.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 3:05 pm to Morpheus
It’s supposed to be continuous action, no stoppages. This hydration break thing is brand new and the fans are booing it half of the time. They add extra time for injuries and stoppages like that. Judgement call by the ref.
Also, look at this way. These guys run an average of 5-7 miles per match. So they will take an opportunity to catch their breath by staying down a few extra seconds after a hard tackle.
We understand American Football intricacies, so we enjoy the strategy and don’t mind that they stand around and do nothing for the majority of the running clock in the game. In the huddle, at the line of scrimmage, or after a play. It’s just familiarity.
Also, look at this way. These guys run an average of 5-7 miles per match. So they will take an opportunity to catch their breath by staying down a few extra seconds after a hard tackle.
We understand American Football intricacies, so we enjoy the strategy and don’t mind that they stand around and do nothing for the majority of the running clock in the game. In the huddle, at the line of scrimmage, or after a play. It’s just familiarity.
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