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re: Multiple players threatened to opt out of the CFB Playoffs this past year...

Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:21 am to
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:21 am to
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Glad the extremely tiny minority of whiners that pounded their fists about the above have gotten their way.


Jay Bilas loves the way things are.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
3065 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:21 am to
They should just sign them to contracts and pay them in installments. Have buyouts. Jay bilas has explained it well.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36606 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:22 am to
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If they didn't get a payday. This includes the recently departed Tennessee QB, Nico Iamaleava, according to Josh Pate. Everything's fine boys. The sport has never been bigger or better than it is now. Nothing to see here.


And now Nico doesn’t have a team to play for, so everything does, in fact, seem fine
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36606 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:24 am to
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they received free tuition, books, housing, food, clothes, medical care, and a monetary stipend. They were getting very well compensated for being "amateur student athletes".


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by WG_Dawg


I think you should be paid $35k a year for your job. That seems more than fair to me
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35782 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:24 am to
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What’s the solution?



Contracts with buyouts.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13135 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:26 am to
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right here. Free market, I thought most here liked it.


The courts mandated that a voluntary organization cannot put any limitations on its volunteers. How is that free market?

Under an actual free market, some private equity guys would have started the Saturday Football League, paid the players, and outcompeted the NCAA until it was obsolete. That didn’t happen because the entire value of college athletics comes from its ties to the government-backed institutions.

Regardless of talent disparity, a minor league Tuscaloosa team would never be more popular than the university-affiliated team.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108272 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:27 am to
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I think you should be paid $35k a year for your job. That seems more than fair to me
Its not a job……

They can go to college and get an actual job if they want and make all the money in the world of their name image and likeness. The ncaa was never stopping them from doing that….

Livvy Dunne could have gone to lsu and did arse pics and made as much money she wanted while working a job under the old ncaa rules. They didn’t prevent her from doing that. They just said you can’t be a member of our private organization if you do so. It was a horrible ruling from congress that just stokes the fires of big govt interference
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 8:29 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41963 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:29 am to
My God you are stupid.
Posted by migui8618
Member since Nov 2023
612 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:31 am to
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IMO, the entire system is immoral.


The biggest issue, is the agents (mostly family members or friends). They are taking in 25-30% on these deals. The kids don't know any better, and no one is looking out for them. It's a bonanza, and is the root cause of the ultimatums. It should be the first reform.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14290 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:31 am to
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Yeah what a shite show this has become. How could we never have seen this coming?


Everyone they was paying attention knew this was coming
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89506 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:31 am to
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I think you should be paid $35k a year for your job. That seems more than fair to me


-If i wanted a job and a company was hiring
-I went for an interview and I liked the company and they felt my skillset was appropriate
-the paperwork comes out and they tell me my job duties and respobilities which I deem acceptable, and they tell me that this job pays a salary of $35K per year and I deem that acceptable
-and both of us sign the papers to agree for me to do ABC duties in exchange for XYZ compensation


I don't see the slightest thing in the world wrong wtih that. Do you?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36606 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:32 am to
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Its not a job……


It is for hundreds of administrators who are making a lot of money
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46212 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:32 am to
This is what happens when players and their families/"advisors" no longer value a college education.
I'm waiting for the 30 for 30 episode on college players who got big NIL money but no degree, who never made it in the NFL, and who are now dead broke.
That will be a good one.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36611 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:33 am to
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I think you should be paid $35k a year for your job. That seems more than fair to me


so my only problem with this is

1) there are other outlets, mainly canada and usfl where they can go play

2) NCAA is voluntary org and nobody is saying you must go to college to go the NFL. Its all voluntary

my whole thing is the courts shouldnt be able to tell a voluntary org what rules they can have to regulate the org.

but i also dont believe there should be a minimum wage either and should be able to sell you labor for whatever you want.



I also dont relaly have a problem with the original intent of NIL but we knew this would happen.


what has to happen is NCAA needs to get the settlement in court for Rev sharing and they need to have it where its contract based. Im ok with it being year to year or even 3 years or 4 year contracts with penalties for breaking the contract
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36606 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:34 am to
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I'm waiting for the 30 for 30 episode on college players who got big NIL money but no degree, who never made it in the NFL, and who are now dead broke. That will be a good one.


Who cares?

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This is what happens when players and their families/"advisors" no longer value a college education.


There’s daily threads on this very site daily saying college is a scam and a waste of time
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36606 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:35 am to
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my whole thing is the courts shouldnt be able to tell a voluntary org what rules they can have to regulate the org.


You dont actually believe that. You just don’t like this specific ruling

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what has to happen is NCAA needs to get the settlement in court for Rev sharing and they need to have it where its contract based. Im ok with it being year to year or even 3 years or 4 year contracts with penalties for breaking the contract


Oh, so what the real adults have been saying for decades? Got it
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108272 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:36 am to
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2) NCAA is voluntary org and nobody is saying you must go to college to go the NFL. Its all voluntary
THIS

It’s completely incorrect that the ncaa prevented kids from making money off their name. Every single person had the option to not VOLUNTARILY become an ncaa athlete and they can make all the money off their name they want
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89506 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:36 am to
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Its not a job……


It is for hundreds of administrators who are making a lot of money


so? Those are adult professionals with...jobs. College studnets don't have jobs. They agree to go to that school and be a student, all the while playing a sport and having everything taken care of in exchange. That system worked for a 100 years.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90360 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:36 am to
You guys are complaining about players getting paid and pretty much being free agents and going to highest bidder every year.

This was a shite show to begin with.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69618 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:36 am to
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And now Nico doesn’t have a team to play for, so everything does, in fact, seem fine



That had everything to do with his father SIGNIFICANTLY overplaying their hand by wanting a TWO MILLION DOLLAR raise for his child. And that was after Tennessee obviously agreed to their terms before the playoffs considering he ended up playing in the game.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 8:38 am
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