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re: Multiple players threatened to opt out of the CFB Playoffs this past year...
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:32 am to moneyg
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:32 am to moneyg
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100% backwards.
The smart people in the room tried to warn people like you over and over and over again that the slippery slope of NIL would destroy the game. Your bleeding heart couldn't handle it.
Keep in mind. All the NCAA ever did was set the rules within itself. The yearly agreements were always voluntary. Nobody was forced to agree to it. Players could quit at any time. Nobody was forced to play or repay scholarships. They could have cashed in on their image at any time if they were willing to forgo eligibility. They could have decided to play in other leagues at any time if they were willing to forego eligibility. There was no obligation for the player except for how it impacts him remaining within the NCAA.
It's a white paper for how bleeding hearts can destroy good things.
100% agree. While we're at it we should cap CEO and doctor pay as well.
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:38 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Yeah I don’t really know what else you can realistically do. Keep roster limits, have contracts in place, and make both schools and players actually responsible for the deals they make.
Give them the freedom to give a 3 year contract if they really want to that guarantees more years/security or let the player bet on themselves with a 1 year deal if there are schools willing to gamble with them.
But the contracts should be ironclad for both sides. Schools can’t just cast aside injured players/underperforming athletes and players can’t bolt because of playing time, feelings hurt etc.
If a mutual agreement to terminate a contract is made there should also be some kind of penalty either in school choice eligibility or sitting out a year. The school should lose the roster spot for the same amount of time. Players shouldn’t be able to hold a school hostage with bad behavior to force being let go.
I’m sure I’m overlooking a ton of stuff but if both the portal and NIL are going to exist there has to be SOMETHING that organizes the chaos at least a bit.
Give them the freedom to give a 3 year contract if they really want to that guarantees more years/security or let the player bet on themselves with a 1 year deal if there are schools willing to gamble with them.
But the contracts should be ironclad for both sides. Schools can’t just cast aside injured players/underperforming athletes and players can’t bolt because of playing time, feelings hurt etc.
If a mutual agreement to terminate a contract is made there should also be some kind of penalty either in school choice eligibility or sitting out a year. The school should lose the roster spot for the same amount of time. Players shouldn’t be able to hold a school hostage with bad behavior to force being let go.
I’m sure I’m overlooking a ton of stuff but if both the portal and NIL are going to exist there has to be SOMETHING that organizes the chaos at least a bit.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 9:42 am
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:39 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:”Who” should cap it?
While we're at it we should cap CEO and doctor pay as well.
Nobody capped the pay these kids could make in 2004. They had freedoms to do whatever they wanted and make as much as they wanted on their name.
All of these kids were allowed to be YouTube or instagram NIL millionaires if they wanted even with the old ncaa. Nobody capped that
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 9:43 am
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:40 am to St Augustine
quote:Nope. You can’t limit their future NIL possibilities
Give them the freedom to give a 3 year contract
“They voluntarily signed the contract”
So, they also voluntarily agreed to the ncaa rules before. All nullified by the courts. Nothing that prevents their future NIL earnings can be done
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:42 am to lsupride87
shows just how much interest I’ve lost. Didn’t even realize that 
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:43 am to moneyg
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The smart people in the room tried to warn people like you over and over and over again that the slippery slope of NIL would destroy the game. Your bleeding heart couldn't handle it.
They got too big for the model of not giving players anything, sorry. It's not a bleeding heart issue
The problem is that the NCAA and university presidents elected to ride that model out for as long as possible and refusing to even bend a little.
I don't think there's pure anarchy had the NCAA allowed guys to make money off of their likeness 10-15 years ago with guidelines and rules in place.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:43 am to TT9
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When someone can pay these kids whatever they want to play for whichever school, that's the free market working.
When the government prevents an organization from implementing any rules or controls around compensation for the people that choose to be part of the organization, that’s not the free market.
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And I'm not a progressive
Yall never are
Amazing how ashamed yall are of your shitty belief system 
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:44 am to RollTide1987
Changing the transfer rules back would solve a lot of these issues
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:47 am to Ed Osteen
quote:That would be preventing these kids future NIL opportunities though. I don’t see how that can be done based on the ruling
Changing the transfer rules back would solve a lot of these issues
The ruling basically said no private organization can set any rules that limit a persons NIL
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:49 am to RollTide1987
Saban warned everyone
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:50 am to SoFla Tideroller
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The whole aim of that loud minority was the destruction of college football.
If that were the goal, I feel like there was a better way to go about it.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:50 am to JohnnyKilroy
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100% agree. While we're at it we should cap CEO and doctor pay as well.
100% backwards again. That would be market manipulation.
There's nothing prohibiting someone from creating a professional league that's not tied to universities except for the lack of viability in doing so.
I don't want to prevent that. THAT would be market manipulation. I'm suggesting that the NCAA and its member institutions should be able to offer whatever they want...and players should be able to decide that whether they want to engage in that agreement.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:51 am to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:and got out at the perfect time.
Saban warned everyone
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:52 am to lsupride87
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All of these kids were allowed to be YouTube or instagram NIL millionaires if they wanted even with the old ncaa.
The NCAA told garrett clark to delete all his youtube videos if he wanted his eligibility reinstated.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:53 am to St Augustine
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shows just how much interest I’ve lost. Didn’t even realize that
He’s full of shite
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:55 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:thanks for making my point
The NCAA told garrett clark to delete all his youtube videos if he wanted his eligibility reinstated.
Garrett Clark was allowed to be a YouTube millionaire under the old ncaa
Why should the ncaa not be allowed to have their own sets of rules for its members that voluntarily choose to be members?
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:56 am to BilJ
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They got too big for the model of not giving players anything, sorry. It's not a bleeding heart issue
of course it is. You just said it. "They got too big". They got too big for people like you. You had to solve a problem that really didn't exist.
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I don't think there's pure anarchy had the NCAA allowed guys to make money off of their likeness 10-15 years ago with guidelines and rules in place.
People are always going to chase money when it's available. When you removed the ability of the NCAA to enforce its rules within itself, you opened Pandora's box. There's billions of a market for sub-NFL football. We know this. There's obviously a market for talent willing to play for money. There's nothing stopping someone like you (with money) from feasting on this opportunity EXCEPT for the viability of the ultimate product. It will fail spectacularly because people don't come to see the quality of football...they come to root for the schools. And, you know it's true because there's no alternative league.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:57 am to moneyg
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I'm suggesting that the NCAA and its member institutions should be able to offer whatever they want...and players should be able to decide that whether they want to engage in that agreement.
You’re in luck. No one is forcing these member institutions to offer anything to any athlete.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:57 am to RollTide1987
Just like anything based solely on money, just keep it up players/parents. This entire shitshow is about to get massively regulated….and I love it
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:59 am to lsupride87
For sure, I don’t really know how any of it gets corrected legally but seems like the transfer rule would be the best/easiest path to start
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