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re: Most Overrated Moment in Sports History
Posted on 3/11/10 at 12:29 pm to wilceaux
Posted on 3/11/10 at 12:29 pm to wilceaux
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Wow.
That catch wasn't even close to being as great as Mays' catch was.
Devon White wouldn't have come close the Mays ball.
Devon White couldn't spring after the ball because he had a big freaking wall in the way. He had to time it just right.
No hard feelings, just my opinion.
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Posted on 3/11/10 at 12:33 pm to Baloo
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Name a better throw AND catch and circumstance.
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The Immaculate Reception.
The imaculate reception was a fluke -- and it is hyped almost because of it's flukiness alone. Hardly much skill involved in the throw or the catch -- maybe some in the catch -- but it can't compare to the skill of the throw and catch of the Catch.
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Belarus beating Sweden in 2002 was probably a bigger upset than the Miracle on Ice.
Belarus beating Sweden was not as big an upset as the US/USSR imo. Belarus had a couple of NHL players and their goalie had played minor league pro hockey for several teams. The US had only a bunch of college kids who had lost to the Soviets 10-3 in the prelims.
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but the Jeter thing is bothering me. He caught the ball at the friggin' foul line yet somehow ends up in the seats.
As to the Jeter catch, I can only assume that you haven't watched the play in a while or that the Yankees are not exactly your favorite team. Jeter only took two big steps on the dead run after he caught the ball before he went over the rail and into the seats.
Watch the video and then tell me again how Jeter "took a dive."
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Posted on 3/11/10 at 2:14 pm to Bullethead88
Gonna have to roll with the Immaculate Reception
Posted on 3/11/10 at 2:32 pm to wilceaux
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centerfield in the Polo Grounds was about 430. The ball was hit about 420.
Centerfield was 483 feet at the Polo Grounds.
I don't think Mays would be playing shallow for Vick Wertz, but I could be wrong.
Great line by a New York sportswriter: "It would have been a home run in any other park, including Yellowstone."
Posted on 3/11/10 at 2:35 pm to Bullethead88
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I don't think Mays would be playing shallow for Vick Wertz, but I could be wrong
Im not sure if he did but he was notorious for playing shallow.
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Great line by a New York sportswriter: "It would have been a home run in any other park, including Yellowstone."
This also shows how great Willie was. I think the best 5 tool player in the history of the game. Think of how many more homers he would have hit in todays sized parks. Those were some caverns they played in back then.
Posted on 3/11/10 at 2:41 pm to Rex
quote:Then why the hype for the Flutie hail mary and none for the BIGGEST comeback in college football history, when Maryland beat Miami? That was an even bigger upset, yet it doesn't make a dent on the public conciousness. Hype has a lot to do with it.
I suspect that a lot of these people dismissing these moments didn't actually witness them. Miami was a juggernaut. The moment was big
Posted on 3/11/10 at 2:42 pm to brg0320
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The Cal v. Stanford play, easily
That's the first thing that popped in my mind! I couldn't agree more. The Bluegrass Miracle is far more exciting than Cal Stanford!
Posted on 3/11/10 at 2:44 pm to bomber77
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This also shows how great Willie was. I think the best 5 tool player in the history of the game. Think of how many more homers he would have hit in todays sized parks.
Mays' biggest problem hitting home runs was the prevailing left field to right field winds at Candlestick. On really windy days, he would try to hit it to right field. And he still hit 660.
Posted on 3/11/10 at 2:55 pm to Bullethead88
quote:Sure there was some luck, but it was a great play by Franco. And it was 4th down with less than 30 seconds to play and the Steelers had no timeouts. The play won the game and was the Steelers first playoff win. It beats the Catch on meaning, amazement, clutchiness, and importance. And I hate the Steelers.
he imaculate reception was a fluke -- and it is hyped almost because of it's flukiness alone. Hardly much skill involved in the throw or the catch -- maybe some in the catch -- but it can't compare to the skill of the throw and catch of the Catch.
quote:Minor league hockey? Really? The 2002 Sweden team was LOADED and I don't think Belarus had an NHL player on there, but let's assume they had two or three.
Belarus beating Sweden was not as big an upset as the US/USSR imo. Belarus had a couple of NHL players and their goalie had played minor league pro hockey for several teams. The US had only a bunch of college kids who had lost to the Soviets 10-3 in the prelims.
The 1980 US team wasn't a bunch of nobodies. Jim Craig was the top prosepct in hockey, who put off his career to play on the team. Erruzione also had pro expereince and was a certain NHL'er who didn't play pro to cash in on the gold for the rest of his life. But the rest of the guys weren't bums...
Neal Broten scored over 900 career points.
Mike Ramsey played in over 1000 NHL games.
Dave Christian scored over 750 career points.
Mark Johnson scored over 500 career points.
Oh, and Ken Morrow won a Stanley Cup THAT SAME YEAR. He won four Cups with the Islanders.
The Miracle on Ice was great and it's the thing that got me into hockey as a little kid. But I can certainly see someone calling it overrated.
And I gave Jeter credit for the flip. The dive is horribly, horribly overrated. Two BIG steps indeed.
Posted on 3/11/10 at 3:02 pm to WarhawkRebel
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The Bluegrass Miracle is far more exciting than Cal Stanford!
have to disagree.
the laterals were insane, band on the field, and bitter rivals.
Posted on 3/11/10 at 3:12 pm to artvandelay1987
Buckner play and the Baby-hook by Magic
Posted on 3/11/10 at 3:13 pm to Baloo
Agree to disagree on the Immaculate Reception vs the catch. The same adjectives you used to describe the IR could be used to describe the Catch imo. (I suspect you're not a big 49ers or Montana fan).
Now as to Jeter, I got to bow-up on that one. Did you watch the video? Jeter goes 100% full speed, head first into the stands. He doesn't want to hit head first into the wall at the back of the photographer's row, so he dives over the wall and into the stands. I thought it was an amazing play.
After, he looks like he went 10 rounds with Joe Frazier. I'll bet he never goes into the stands like that again.
Now as to Jeter, I got to bow-up on that one. Did you watch the video? Jeter goes 100% full speed, head first into the stands. He doesn't want to hit head first into the wall at the back of the photographer's row, so he dives over the wall and into the stands. I thought it was an amazing play.
After, he looks like he went 10 rounds with Joe Frazier. I'll bet he never goes into the stands like that again.
Posted on 3/11/10 at 3:21 pm to Baloo
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Then why the hype for the Flutie hail mary
What I never could figure out about the Flutie hail mary is that he receiver caught the ball in his midsection. How did that happen?
For it to be that great a play, I would think that the catch would have to have been special too -- and it wasn't.
Posted on 3/11/10 at 3:23 pm to Bullethead88
quote:Montana is the greatest quarterback not named Unitas. And I hate the Cowboys with a passion. I just think it's a play that gets way too much hype.
(I suspect you're not a big 49ers or Montana fan).
Bow up all you want on Jeter. You posted the clip. It's not like he caught the ball the railing. And I gave credit to the flip, which is a great play. But he's not exactly the first player to dive into the satnds for a ball, though he may be the first to do so after catching the ball near fair territory.
Posted on 3/11/10 at 3:33 pm to Baloo
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he's not exactly the first player to dive into the satnds for a ball, though he may be the first to do so after catching the ball near fair territory.
A fight to the death on Jeter. I've never seen a player go all-out head first like that into the stands. And, like I said, I'll bet he never does it again.
To lighten things up, how about the effort A-Rod gives on that play. He starts out closer to the ball than Jeter (although Jeter has the better angle) and winds up 30 feet from the ball as Jeter goes into then stands.
This post was edited on 3/11/10 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 3/11/10 at 3:39 pm to Bullethead88
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What I never could figure out about the Flutie hail mary is that he receiver caught the ball in his midsection. How did that happen?
For it to be that great a play, I would think that the catch would have to have been special too -- and it wasn't.
I dont even consider it a hail mary. Phelon beat the defenders deep. No one thought Flutie could throw it that far. He didnt even lob it. It was a 63 yard rope right to the reciever. Amazing play by Flutie in an amazing game!
Posted on 3/11/10 at 4:37 pm to danfraz
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I go with "the ball gets by Buckner"
x a billion
the game wasn't over at that point, shite neither was the series
my close second would be Steve Bartman
Posted on 3/11/10 at 4:38 pm to WarhawkRebel
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That's the first thing that popped in my mind! I couldn't agree more. The Bluegrass Miracle is far more exciting than Cal Stanford!
no fricking way
Posted on 3/11/10 at 4:42 pm to WarhawkRebel
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The Bluegrass Miracle is far more exciting than Cal Stanford!
WTF? Cal-Stanford is a huge rivalry on the west coast. It's the biggest game of the year BY FAR for each team. LSU-Kentucky's ending was an exciting but fluke play between two schools with no rivalry whatsoever, and beyond that, it was between two teams that weren't even very good.
Cal-Stanford meant John Elway would never play in a bowl game. The Bluegrass Miracle meant Saban's worst team by far at LSU didn't finish .500. Woohoo.
Posted on 3/11/10 at 4:48 pm to The Darrow Kid
"This team is going to the playoffs!" - Jim Fassel, when his team was like, 9-4.
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