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Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
Posted on 10/22/20 at 1:38 am
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 5:17 am to TomBuchanan
All the players were about 6' and weighed 180, including linemen.
Probably ran a 40 in 6.5.
You know, F= ma.
Probably ran a 40 in 6.5.
You know, F= ma.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 5:51 am to East Coast Band
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All the players were about 6' and weighed 180, including linemen.
Probably ran a 40 in 6.5.
You know, F= ma.
https://www.history.com/news/how-teddy-roosevelt-saved-football
You know, enough of them DIED that Teddy Roosevelt had to save football.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 7:22 am to TomBuchanan
The "Flying Wedge" Era
Posted on 10/22/20 at 7:31 am to TomBuchanan
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The committee counted 49 deaths related to football in 1931–31 direct and 18 indirect. The only year on record between 1931 and 2013 with more direct fatalities was 1968 (36), but that year’s indirect fatalities were lower (12) than 1931. Indirect fatalities were only equal or higher in 1933, 1935, 1936, 1961, 1965 and 2009. Only 1965 manages to tie 1931 for total deaths, leaving them sharing the title of deadliest year.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 7:47 am to TomBuchanan
A lot of those players end up eventually having dementia. Case in point, Gale Sayers was struggling with dementia for a number of years before he died. Same with John Mackey.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 7:47 am to nes2010
If you ain't dyin, you ain't tryin.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 7:59 am to TomBuchanan
Know a man who played football for Tulane in the early 50’s. He’s still alive but has horrible knee and hip problems, and now has a very bad case of Alzheimer’s. It’s really sad to see but I’m sure it’s from playing football in the era that he played in. Can’t even imagine lining up against someone with the kind of helmets they had back then. I’d hurt myself playing football with modern and safe helmets, can’t imagine how it was back then
Posted on 10/22/20 at 8:03 am to TomBuchanan
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With little protective equipment, players sustained gruesome injuries—wrenched spinal cords, crushed skulls and broken ribs that pierced their hearts.
quote:Jesus. I knew it was bad and had a lot of deaths back in the early 1900s but this is brutal
Harvard varsity nearly walked off the field while playing against Yale after their captain was leveled by an illegal hit on a fair catch that left his nose broken and bloodied. The same afternoon, Union College halfback Harold Moore died of a cerebral hemorrhage after being kicked in the head while attempting to tackle a New York University runner.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 8:28 am to TomBuchanan
If football is that dangerous even with pads, then rugby players ought to be maimed and dying left and right. Only they aren't, that I'm aware of. I have seen it suggested before that pads actually make the game less safe, because they encourage harder, wilder hits. If you watch rugby you'll see very few of the flying spear tackles that are prevalent in football (at least it was so in the limited amounts of rugby I have watched). They mostly try to drag the ball carrier down.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 8:32 am to TomBuchanan
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Those early guys had 2nd jobs and weren't throwing themselves around like missiles the way people were doing in the 90s and 00s. I look at some early players in interviews and they just flat out don't have anything wrong them cognitively and it makes me wonder what will happen with players from more recent eras when they reach that age.
I'm not sure you understand how violent of a game football was in the 60's and 70's.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 9:04 am to VABuckeye
80's and 90's were violent too, plus the size and speed increases.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:29 am to TheTideMustRoll
Yes, the emphasis is on making the tackle, not making a flashy hit.
There are some awesome hits in rugby though.
It's a superior sport. Far more fun than football. Continuous action. Players playing both ways. Limited substitutions.
There are some awesome hits in rugby though.
It's a superior sport. Far more fun than football. Continuous action. Players playing both ways. Limited substitutions.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:35 am to TomBuchanan
Definitely 80s-2000s. People were using their helmets as missiles. CTE all over the place. I would argue football is safer without helmets because people are conscious of whet they are doing with their head.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:42 am to SoDakHawk
Not as bad as the 60’s and 70’s.... they had certain players that were just way way better than players on other teams.... take Dick Butkus for example.., a true head hunter and was way better than most other players on opposing teams.... now the 80’s and 90’s it was different because with advanced training most players were on par with other players in the league.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:44 am to East Coast Band
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All the players were about 6' and weighed 180, including linemen.
Probably ran a 40 in 6.5.
When was this?
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:46 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Way before your time. 
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:49 am to VABuckeye
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I'm not sure you understand how violent of a game football was in the 60's and 70's.
And in the 60's steroids were not illegal. Coaches were loading players up with that crap. And spearing was the required tackling technique on many teams.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 10:53 am
Posted on 10/22/20 at 11:40 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Yes, as was clotheslining players. See Fred "The Hammer" Williamson and some of the hits he made.
Also see Joe "Turkey" Jones and his hit on Terry Bradshaw. Those are just a couple of examples of the brutality of the game back then.
Also see Joe "Turkey" Jones and his hit on Terry Bradshaw. Those are just a couple of examples of the brutality of the game back then.
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