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nvasil1
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
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I have seen it suggested before that pads actually make the game less safe, because they encourage harder, wilder hits.

I've heard Mike Ditka make a similar argument before. He basically said to take away the modern facemasks and padding, and see how many guys are still willing to launch themselves into one another at full speed.


mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
The 70's were brutal.

What defenses could do to quarterbacks, receivers and linemen would be looked at as barbaric today.

Head-slapping linemen, clotheslining receivers by linebackers as they ran their route over the middle, decapitating and ripping off QBs helmets.

Plus those helmets sucked. They would come flying off of running backs heads after just a normal hit, everyone was still putting their heads down...

It's no wonder it was the most difficult decade to score points in the history of the NFL. QBs all had low-ratings, games were low scoring...if you weren't holding a receiver all the way down the field you weren't trying. That's why 70's QBs don't get enough respect as they should from history. Hardest era ever to play QB.


Comic_Tiger
Member since Jul 2020
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
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That's why 70's QBs don't get enough respect as they should from history. Hardest era ever to play QB.


That's why I just chuckle when they say Tom Brady is the GOAT.

Nah, someone like Terry or Montana is. Brady wouldn't last one or two seasons back then. Terry and Montana would thrive in today's league.



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Cdawg
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
No way head hunting Jack Tatum could play today's game.

Ronnie Lott feasted on defenseless receivers.
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mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
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I've heard Mike Ditka make a similar argument before. He basically said to take away the modern facemasks and padding, and see how many guys are still willing to launch themselves into one another at full speed.


Joe Paterno argued for years about taking away the facemasks, the helmet no longer becomes a weapon.


VABuckeye
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Member since Dec 2007
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
Nah man. I saw the Redskins punter get his nose absolutely destroyed with a single piece facemask.


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jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
When playing pickup football (sandlot) there was always one guy on the other team that was shorter and stockier than most of us and usually either bald headed or head shaved that wanted to tackle head first, full speed. He would act as tho he was a monster, willing to kill and be killed. At the beginning of the game I would be weary of him..but as the game went on, I realized ...this is pick-up football, I'm never gonna call a running play up the middle, so what good is he?
But I always felt he was a guy born 50 years too early. I don't remember he actually ever making a play.


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gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
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Not as bad as the 60’s and 70’s..


I agree with this. Those guys were playing ball at a brutal level and knocking players out of the game by injuring them was pretty common practice. Head hunters, piling on, elbows and forearms to the head, horse collar tackles, hitting receivers crossing over the middle of the field full force while their ribs were exposed reaching for the football, etc.

That's why so many players from that era suffer from CTE, Parkinson's, Alzheimers, broken down joints and can't function.

Look at Earl Campbell who bowled over opponents in his prime. Poor bastard can't even walk today from all the damage he took in his playing days.

Then add to that they really didn't make much money in those days to last a lifetime like so many players today make-------------IF they spend and invest wisely and don't go all bling, most of today's pros are set for life.


CHEDBALLZ
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
My son plays Rugby. You cant leave your feet to make a tackle, you have to wrap up, you can only make contact below the armpits. Also, the ball carrier and cant leave their feet either.


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Alabama Slim
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
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If you watch rugby you'll see very few of the flying spear tackles that are prevalent in football (at least it was so in the limited amounts of rugby I have watched). They mostly try to drag the ball carrier down.



Most of the time in rugby both teams are moving in the same direction or the offensive team is attacking a static wall of defenders. Not a lot of players colliding in opposite directions.


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lsewwww
Member since Feb 2009
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
I'm sure earl campbell has some football injuries but apparently he was born with spinal stenosis. I always thought his knees and hips had been destroyed. Some of the stories from the game like frank gifford being knocked out show it was a game only for the toughest of the tough
espn article


gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
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Some of the stories from the game like frank gifford being knocked out show it was a game only for the toughest of the tough



I recall an interview with Dick Butkus and him saying he liked the scene in the movie "Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte" where the head comes rolling down the stairs. He'd project that imagery to playing on the football field in his mind and it didn't bother him as long as it wasn't his head.

That man was a beast on the football field.


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VABuckeye
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
Here's a link to the Chuck Bednarik hit on Gifford. The hit is at 1:28 of the video.

Chuck Bednarik hit on Frank Gifford


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VABuckeye
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
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No way head hunting Jack Tatum could play today's game.

Ronnie Lott feasted on defenseless receivers.


Both players had a knack for arriving when the ball arrived. To say one of them couldn't play under today's rules is ludicrous.


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gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
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No way head hunting Jack Tatum could play today's game.

Ronnie Lott feasted on defenseless receivers.



They would still be All-Pro players in today's game, but they'd have to play under today's rules and that don't take away from their effectiveness as defensive players, just big hitters.


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prplhze2000
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
The Seahawks use that technique


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chinese58
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
In high school, we were still wearing Ridell suspension helmets in the mid 70's. Image: https://www.milehighcardco.com/ItemImages/000020/16_20045e_med.jpeg

No padding except for the little c shaped ones under your ears, and at the bottom of the back. The bottom back one was to keep the helmet from cutting into your neck.


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chinese58
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re: Most dangerous era of football with actual helmets?
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take Dick Butkus for example..,
Half his highlights would be penalties today






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