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re: MLB Trade Deadline Thread - Waiver deadline is 8/31

Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:14 pm to
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rookie third baseman Miguel Andujar. Rather, the Yankees simply would have platooned Andujar at first base or sent him down to the minors while Machado played third, per Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (subscription required). The bottom line is that the Yankees “have no plans to trade Andujar,” writes Rosenthal, who adds that they recently turned down the Padreswhen they asked for the 23-year-old in exchange for reliever Brad Hand. San Diego ended up sending Hand to Cleveland in a blockbuster dealon Thursday.


Yankees high on Andujar as they should be
Posted by rebel of fortune
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:15 pm to
I disagree about not trading deGrom right now. They have the second worst record in the NL with deGrom having a great season. They aren’t competing with the Phillies, Braves, and Nats the next few years. They should completely rebuild their farm system that isn’t very good right now. They would have one of the top farm systems in baseball if they decide to trade deGrom and Thor away.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:25 pm to
Look at the Phillies and Braves last year, we could have said the same thing.
With Noah, DeGrom, Matz, and Gellmanbtgey still have the pitching to keep them in games. Now if they can get some useful offensive pieces the Mets can turn it around soon. Nimmo, Confonto, Cespedas, Rosario they have some building blocks
Posted by devils1854
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:45 pm to
Cespedes missed half the season last year and has missed over 50 games so far this year, and he isnt getting younger. Conforto had a good year last year, but its wrapped around a bad 2016 and a bad 2018. Rosario has shown nothing in basically a full season. He can still develop in the future, but who really knows with him. Nimmo is definitely having a good year in his first full season with the team.

I think thats too many ifs for them to compete, especially with only Alonso almost ready to make a impact in the minors.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:06 pm to
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Cespedes missed half the season last year and has missed over 50 games so far this year, and he isnt getting younger
Enciarte (although he is younger than Cespedas)

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Conforto had a good year last year, but its wrapped around a bad 2016 and a bad 2018.
But he has proven he can hit in the majors, which Braves player could say that last year at the same age?

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Rosario has shown nothing in basically a full season. He can still develop in the future, but who really knows with him
Like Swanson?

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Nimmo is definitely having a good year in his first full season with the team.

Nimmo has about a season worth of playing time and has proved he can produce and is MLB ready. Even if he doesn't become a star he is still a quality OF at 23 years old.


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I think thats too many ifs for them to compete,
Again, at this point last year people were saying the Braves/Phillies were 2-3 years away from competing and here we are a year later and their battling for 1st. The Mets still have a young pitching core, they need the offense and they can add a few prospects who may provide that at the deadline without gutting the team.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:07 pm to
The Braves/Phillies (especially the Braves) had elite young talent on their way up. The Mets do not have that

I’m not sure why you’re comparing them, they are completely different situations
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 2:08 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:11 pm to
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The Braves/Phillies (especially the Braves) had elite young talent on their way up. The Mets do not have that

The Mets already have elite young talent in their rotation. They also have some talent on the MLB roster, they are not as far off in my opinion as people try to place them. Now they are dysfunctional which is a bigger hinderance that what you see but last year the Braves had RA Dickey, Brandon Phillips, Matt Kemp, Jamie Garcia, and Bartolo Colon manning the roster and a lot of unproven talent coming up. The Mets have a lot of proven talent in their pitching staff and have talent in Rosario, Confonto, Nimmo, Smith, that can hopefully be elite. They are not far off and going into a drastic rebuild isn't necessary is all I am saying.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Baltimore has given Tillman an opportunity to continue pitching in its minor league system, but he’s undecided as of now, general manager Dan Duquette told Eduardo A. Encina of the Baltimore Sun and other reporters.

2:24pm: The Orioles announced that they’ve designated right-hander Chris Tillman for assignment. His roster spot will go to infielder/outfielder Renato Nunez, whom they’ve selected from Triple-A Norfolk.
Does anyone take a chance on Tillman? Could be a great buy low type of guy
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:14 pm to
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The Mets already have elite young talent in their rotation


I don’t think they should trade it all. DeGrom is 30, a free agent in two years, and would fetch a significant return.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:16 pm to
True but he also could man the rotation for the next two years as they challenge like the Braves/Phillies are right now. If the Mets make the right moves, the Mets have him under control and if they believe they can make the turn around then no need to move him when he could be leading their team in a year.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:17 pm to
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Does anyone take a chance on Tillman?


Seems like a Rangers or Angels type of move.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:20 pm to
I was thinking Braves or Phillies to be honest with you, maybe even Padres/Dodgers as he could benefit from their stadiums
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:25 pm to
I don't think a team legitimately in the pennant race is going to take a chance on a guy who can't even help the Orioles right now.
Posted by rebel of fortune
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:26 pm to
The issue is their young players have all struggled outside of Nimmo. Conforto has had injuries that have hurt his development and Rosario hasn’t done anything in the majors so far. They don’t have much money available and don’t have the farm system to improve their big league club.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:28 pm to
Do they have to add him to the active roster or can they place him on the 40m and send him to AAA
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:31 pm to
Not sure but I think Tillman has a say in it.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:34 pm to
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The issue is their young players have all struggled outside of Nimmo.
They have but they are young and the Mets have all world pitching available

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Conforto has had injuries that have hurt his development and Rosario hasn’t done anything in the majors so far.
Prior to this year you could argue Swanson had done nothing in the majors, which he hadn't Conforto last year had a +147 OPS this year he is a 99, the dude is at nothing else a bit above league average.
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They don’t have much money available and don’t have the farm system to improve their big league club.

The Mets always have money if they need it, the system can be improved by moving the players I mentioned earlier. It will not be a Top 3 but with the pitching the Mets have they just need 1 or 2 more hitters.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:45 pm to


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Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:51 pm to
Wheeler is the only player you mentioned that would bring back decent talent. They would have to include prospects to get rid of Bruce who has been one of the worst everyday players in baseball this year and is still owed 26m
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:53 pm to
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