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Posted by SeeeeK
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:00 pm to
If Reds deal one of their top10 and sandwich pick for Gray, they clearly want to win and put out a competitive team, and over pay.

gray has very little value, yankees came out and said they wanted to rid themselves of him during the last months of season. And have continued to make him expendable for the roster spot on 40 man. I wanted Cardinals to deal for him a Deadline.

If i was a Reds fan i'd be happy, their org is done with rebuild and wanting to bring in players to compete and win.

Posted by reddman
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:01 pm to
Everything that you just said is accurate.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:07 pm to
Gray has value, not sure where the idea he doesn't came from. Yes, Cashman said he wanted to trade him he also said he would take fair value. Gray was pretty good away from Yankee Stadium and the Yankees are shopping him more as that type of pitcher.
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:09 pm to
I feel like he would already be on a new team if he had true "value"
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:12 pm to
Not true, Yankees have wanted to hold onto him till they secured other needs (CC and Happ) and then CC had a medical scare. Plus I think a lot of teams sent lowball offers thinking the Yankees would just move him.
Posted by SeeeeK
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:17 pm to
He's on last year of contract, he's struggled, and was removed from starting staff for a period of time.

His value is not high, i wouldn't pay a C+ prospect for him.

Reds are in a different situation, they are proving to their fans, that they are wanting to win, so they willingly over pay.

Also, if he flops, they are only on the hook for 1 season.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:24 pm to
He did struggle at Yankees stadium but produced a 3.17 ERA on the road over 71 innings. He was also removed due to the Yankees getting Happ and Lynn and then he produced a 2.60 ERA in relief.
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:26 pm to
He sucks. Yanks should dump him to the Reds for trash. And send them cash for that contract as well.

Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

 The Reds and Yankees are inching closer to a deal, with two prospects and a draft pick the expected return for Gray. Long and Stephenson (currently the #6 and #7 prospects in the Reds system per MLB.com) are the prospects most likely to be headed to New York. 
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28026 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 1:44 pm to
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Happ and Lynn


LOL
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:35 pm to
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Jan. 20: It’s possible the Reds are trying to sign Gray to an extension before acquiring him, Rosenthal tweets, though he notes a deal could come together either way.

Jan. 19, 6:08pm: The two sides are “finalizing” the deal, per Heyman, who reports the Yankees will likely receive Long and a draft pick. The Yankees could also land a third piece in the trade, Heyman suggests.


This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 11:02 am
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Free agent outfielder A.J. Pollock is a “target” for the Dodgers, tweets Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic, who adds the two sides are “in discussions.”
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:44 am to
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The Dodgers are discussing outfielder Joc Pederson in potential deals, and the White Sox are among the teams they’re talking to, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports. It’s unclear, though, whether the two sides are making progress in those conversations.
WCA you've always been big on Joc, thoughts?
Posted by msudawg1200
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:20 pm to
As a Reds fan I am happy. These rebuilds build up assets through prospects which some will be part of the next successful team, some will be used in trades to bring in players, and some will flame out. You can’t build a team purely from prospects from your system. I think the Reds thought they could draft, develop, and build a rotation purely from prospects. Yeah, that doesn’t work. I’m very happy the Reds are trying to win.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 2:33 pm to
The deal is complete except for the extension
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 2:35 pm to
i think dealing another outfielder who would be a legitimate contributor to 2019 makes no sense
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 2:37 pm to
The rumor mill is saying if they deal Joc it is because Pollock or Harper would be signed.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 3:12 pm to
still wouldnt get it, especially considering id rather have joc at what he will cost over what pollock would cost, but they will literally have to sign either if they trade joc

doesnt seem like something they would do but we will see
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 3:25 pm to
Dodgers also rumored to be in on Harrison with like 5 other teams
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