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re: MLB Offseason Thread
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:56 am to devils1854
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:56 am to devils1854
Time for some Joc to ATL news! 
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Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:58 am to devils1854
At 12 per, I wish the Braves would have signed him. It’s not a bad price.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:00 pm to papz
the money isnt an issue. the length is. the dodgers are now paying for an often injured, mediocre outfielder whose saving grace is his defense and who knows how that will hold up as he continues to age, into his mid 30s
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:02 pm to WestCoastAg
I think you are being a little harsh on Pollock. I wouldn't consider him mediocre or just a defensive guy.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:04 pm to WestCoastAg
He's not Jayson Werth. If he can play 130 games a year, he's a bargain. It is a big if though. He's a lot more than just defense.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:06 pm to WestCoastAg
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who knows how that will hold up as he continues to age, into his mid 30s
He won't have to be an everyday player with the Dodgers. They need to bring up and play Verdugo and Toles this year too.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:07 pm to papz
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At 12 per, I wish the Braves would have signed him. It’s not a bad price.
So you'd want to give 5 years, 60 million to a guy that hasnt played close to a full season since 2015. Its also a contract where the Braves would have lose their second round pick this year, and they have already lost their third round pick from the Coppy crap, and still have signing restrictions for international players.
.297/.366/.440, .345 wOBA,114 wRC+
.275/.354/.384, .321 wOBA, 94 wRC+
.257/.316/.484, .338 wOBA, 110 wRC+
.266/.330/.471, .340 wOBA, 103 wRC+
The top is the 2017 and 2018 seasons for Markakis. The bottom is Pollack. Markakis also played 97 more games than Pollack during this two year stretch.
Markakis at 6 mil >>>>>>>>>>>
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:09 pm to RollDatRoll
hes been very slightly above average at the plate for the last two years and has been worth a little over 5 WAR which is pretty much an average, everyday starter. if he could stay healthy and start getting on base at over 350 like he was doing 4 years ago than this is not as awful as it looks, even if signing him through his age 35 season is pretty bad regardless, but if hes what he was last year and striking out over 20% of the time...
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:10 pm to papz
quote:he really has not been since his breakout in 2014 and 2015. hes been average, if not very slightly above average, at the plate these last two years
He's a lot more than just defense
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:12 pm to Zappas Stache
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Verdugo
He is about to get shipped off to Miami for JTR
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:14 pm to WestCoastAg
Oh please, you know good and well 2.5 WAR over 110-115 games is better than an average starting position player.
It makes even more sense for a team with a deep outfield pool like the Dodgers. The injury risk is lessened for them because they have guys who can still give you decent production if/when Pollock is injured
It makes even more sense for a team with a deep outfield pool like the Dodgers. The injury risk is lessened for them because they have guys who can still give you decent production if/when Pollock is injured
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:15 pm to devils1854
At 5/60, I would. At 4/50, I'd do that too. Health is the only thing that's held Pollock back. It's a risk I'd be willing to take for the potential return.
It's not a crippling contract nor would it have prevented them from doing other things as well. A second round comp pick doesn't move the needle in either direction.
It's not a crippling contract nor would it have prevented them from doing other things as well. A second round comp pick doesn't move the needle in either direction.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:17 pm to DallasTiger45
quote:hes a 3 to 3.5 WAR player over a full season. thats....a slightly above average starter. and this if hes healthy. which he never is. and thats because of his defense, and who knows how that will stand up when he is approaching 35, which is what hes signed through.
Oh please, you know good and well 2.5 WAR over 110-115 games is better than an average starting position player.
quote:we are going to have decidedly less deep outfield pool after this winter after trading puig and joc and kemp. and this is before we consider what might happen with pederson and verdugo
with a deep outfield pool like the Dodgers
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:28 pm to WestCoastAg
Man, 4/50 looks even better. Not sure what the fuss is about. That's only 12.5 a year which is chump change on a short contract. You basically maintain offensive production and improve a bunch defensively. He's not signed into his late 30s. If he flops, that's an easy contract to move as well.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:29 pm to papz
joc pederson is a .228 hitter with 20 hr potential.
that is a bench player, not a starter.
that is a bench player, not a starter.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:29 pm to papz
Yeah, that is super cheap for an OF
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:32 pm to SeeeeK
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joc pederson is a .228 hitter with 20 hr potential.
He hit .248 last season with a .843 ops and 25 bombs in only 395 ab's.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:36 pm to papz
hes 31, hes signed till hes 35. 31 is, statistically, the line of demarcation on the aging curve. every single one of those years is a decline year. i have my doubts on how he will hold up at the plate as he is starting to strikeout more and walk less
i wouldnt call swapping joc and pollock out as maintaining offensive production, its a legitimate step back in the same vein that pollock is a legitimate step forward over joc with defense.
its taking two fairly equal players value wise, for different reasons, right now and willingly paying more for one players decline
i wouldnt call swapping joc and pollock out as maintaining offensive production, its a legitimate step back in the same vein that pollock is a legitimate step forward over joc with defense.
its taking two fairly equal players value wise, for different reasons, right now and willingly paying more for one players decline
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:36 pm to RollDatRoll
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#Cubs in agreement with free-agent reliever Brad Brach, pending a physical, sources tell The Athletic
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:36 pm to RollDatRoll
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He hit .248 last season with a .843 ops and 25 bombs in only 395 ab's.
When your hitting .248 you wouldnt expect to get more than 350ish at bats
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