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re: MLB has to adapt or the league is going to die
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:23 pm to nicholastiger
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:23 pm to nicholastiger
quote:lol
I stlll think until you eliminate the inherent advantages teams like the Dodgers and Yankees have from a spending standpoint it will not thrive so some sort of salary cap or ways to allow all the teams to compete will be what's needed to sustain it
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Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:30 pm to TeddyPadillac
I'm not a huge fan of batting average in the 21st century, I prefer OPS which is not some weird stat, it's just on base percentage and slugging average which have been around for generations.
OPS prioritizes hitting the ball hard which doesn't necessarily mean hit it over the fence (people like Ichiro and Rod Carew didn't just bloop singles they hit the ball friggin' hard, lots of doubles and triples in the gap) and getting on base and not making outs, instead of just "getting a hit."
But I understand what you're saying in that offenses just suck this year.
OPS prioritizes hitting the ball hard which doesn't necessarily mean hit it over the fence (people like Ichiro and Rod Carew didn't just bloop singles they hit the ball friggin' hard, lots of doubles and triples in the gap) and getting on base and not making outs, instead of just "getting a hit."
But I understand what you're saying in that offenses just suck this year.
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:32 pm to volfan30
You're missing the point.
You don't need a lineup of 1-9 that are either hitting homers/doubles or striking out. Some are good at that, and some are not. I just showed you the typical leadoff guy can have just as much or more impact to winning than the swing for the fences guy.
And Kyle Schwarber's best season for WAR has been this year, at 2.8.
Arraez has had two seasons over 4.
Is WAR important or not, b/c i honestly have no idea?
DJ Lemehieu has had one season where he hit over 15 homers. He's had 6 seasons with a higher WAR than Schwarber's highest of 2.8 this year.
Everyone is being taught to swing the same exact way and be the same hitter. Some are a lot better at it than others. The kid growing up that might be the next Ichiro or Ricky Henderson will never exist b/c no one is teaching him how to hit like that, even though his swing and game may be more catered to that type of hitter. Almost every youth hitting coach is going to teach the exact same thing, and try to change every kids swing to try to hit line drives to the gap, not that that is a bad thing to want to do.
You don't need a lineup of 1-9 that are either hitting homers/doubles or striking out. Some are good at that, and some are not. I just showed you the typical leadoff guy can have just as much or more impact to winning than the swing for the fences guy.
And Kyle Schwarber's best season for WAR has been this year, at 2.8.
Arraez has had two seasons over 4.
Is WAR important or not, b/c i honestly have no idea?
DJ Lemehieu has had one season where he hit over 15 homers. He's had 6 seasons with a higher WAR than Schwarber's highest of 2.8 this year.
Everyone is being taught to swing the same exact way and be the same hitter. Some are a lot better at it than others. The kid growing up that might be the next Ichiro or Ricky Henderson will never exist b/c no one is teaching him how to hit like that, even though his swing and game may be more catered to that type of hitter. Almost every youth hitting coach is going to teach the exact same thing, and try to change every kids swing to try to hit line drives to the gap, not that that is a bad thing to want to do.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:34 pm to TeddyPadillac
This may be my favorite stat line in baseball history. Yogi Berra in 1950
PA 657
AB 597
R 116
2B 30
3B 6
HR 28
RBI 124
BA .322
OBP .383
SA .533
Walks 55
STRIKEOUTS 12
PA 657
AB 597
R 116
2B 30
3B 6
HR 28
RBI 124
BA .322
OBP .383
SA .533
Walks 55
STRIKEOUTS 12
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:34 pm to Saunson69
Had to check the year on this post was it 2024, 2014, 2004, 1994…..been hearing the same thing forever
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:36 pm to TeddyPadillac
Rickey could drive the ball. He hit nearly 300 home runs and over 500 doubles along with all the steals.
If I could choose one player from history to start my imaginary team with, it would be Rickey, not because he was the GOAT but because he could beat your arse so many different ways.
If I could choose one player from history to start my imaginary team with, it would be Rickey, not because he was the GOAT but because he could beat your arse so many different ways.
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:37 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
Guys back in the day were still hitting over .300 while belting 40 homers
quote:
exactly how many guys were doing this
Bonds
Pujols, A-Rod. Junior, frank Thomas, Manny, Sosa, Albert Belle, Juan Gonzalez, Galaraga, Miggy, Nelson Cruz, Judge, JD Martinez, are all guys that have done it multiple times.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:39 pm to Nutriaitch
So multiple guys over multiple different years? Ok
Judge is doing it this year
Ohtani probably will as well
Acuna did it last year
Mookie last year as well
Wow. Looks like it's still happening
Judge is doing it this year
Ohtani probably will as well
Acuna did it last year
Mookie last year as well
Wow. Looks like it's still happening
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:42 pm to Nutriaitch
Jd Martinez was like 5 years ago, not back in the day. Also ironically the player probably most responsible for the emphasis on launch angle
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:46 pm to Saunson69
Right after the 1994 strike 29M watched World Series. Most recent World Series just over 9M
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:51 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
So multiple guys over multiple different years? Ok
12 guys did it in 1996 alone. Steroid era, but still…
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:52 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
quote:hmmm
Steroid
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:53 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
exactly how many guys were doing this
You having trouble reading or something. I literally listed them from just the AL in 1996.
here get a subscription to Statmuse and they'll give you the full list.
LINK
a different metric here but somewhat similar:
almost 200 guys have hit 30 homers, hit .300 and driven in 100rbi's in a season.
28 of those guys have done it since 2010, and of those 28 more than half of them were playing high school baseball in the 90's.
I'm not counting them all to find out, but it looks like a good portion, as in 2/3rds of these have happen in the last 30-40 years, with your obvious Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, Hank Aaron, WIllie Mays, Stan Musual, Mel Ott, Dimagio, Ted Williams, etc guys being the exception.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:56 pm to danilo
Damn that is crazy, only 9.1M viewership.
The women's college basketball title game doubled that. Insane.
The women's college basketball title game doubled that. Insane.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 3:02 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
quote:
12 guys did it in 1996 alone. Steroid era, but still…
5 guys did it in 2006
0 in 2016
2 guys will do it this year.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 3:13 pm to Saunson69
Just bring back juice and this problem goes away.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 4:46 pm to EyeOfTheTiger311
quote:
I mean honestly would anyone care if they changed games to 7 innings,
You.can always go watch college/NFHS baseball.
quote:
reduced the season to half of what it is now
quote:
Play Fri/Sat/Sun series every week
Posted on 8/21/24 at 4:55 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Why is that funny?
Posted on 8/21/24 at 4:56 pm to Wayne Campbell
quote:
The NFL has virtually no payroll discrepancy and less overall parity than MLB.
Thats because they play two very different sports. In the NFL, the QB position will make all the difference in the world. There is nothing comparable in MLB.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 4:57 pm to BigD43
It's just a ridiculous suggestion.
Baseball is known as a meat-grinder of a season. Why mess with it?
Baseball is known as a meat-grinder of a season. Why mess with it?
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