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re: McMurphy accusing Urban Meyer of being aware of domestic abuse allegations in 2015

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Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:52 am to
I don’t understand how Ohio State could be in violation of Title 9. Those violations seem to be sexual focused. Where was there sexual harassment or sexual assault?

(I didn’t read the whole post so I may have missed something)
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:53 am to
quote:

Apparently she’s an instructor in the nursing school so it may be. Although, if I was a coach I’d make sure my family and I used school supplied phones as little as possible.

The article says she's bound by Title IX as a university employee, so I don't know if the use of a school phone or personal necessarily matters.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95884 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:53 am to
quote:


That's what hearsay is. it is 3rd parties discussing what someone else said. That's inadmissible evidence in court. It is admissible for the media to go crazy about though.

If they have urban's phone and texts discussing it, that's direct evidence
We arent in a court of law


I would say the women talking about urban hearing the news is solid evidence here


IMHO, you were making it sound like there was nothing in the texts speaking about Urban, which would be nothing but us assuming his wife told him


There are actual texts though speaking about Urban knowing
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 10:54 am
Posted by Groovie
San Diego,California
Member since Aug 2013
460 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:54 am to
Urban Meyer is such a frickin coward
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:54 am to
It would be awesome if Urban leaves and Schiano is HC.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:55 am to
quote:


There is a text message where one of the women talks about "how Urban handled getting the news about Smith"





I'm no lawyer but years and years of watching law and order tell me that is the definition of hearsay.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95884 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:56 am to
quote:

I'm no lawyer but years and years of watching law and order tell me that is the definition of hearsay.

Well that isnt the definition of hearsay

quote:

information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor.
Getting info from a 3rd party does not make something hearsay


If the 3rd party has direct knowledge, and cant substantiate it, it isnt hearsay
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23136 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:56 am to
quote:

IMHO, you were making it sound like there was nothing in the texts speaking about Urban, which would be nothing but us assuming his wife told him



I tried to make it clear I was just saying all these texts are hearsay. I think I said Meyer knew from the first one.

I was making it clear that McMurphy "knowing" Meyer knew is nowhere in sight. It's circumstantial, which as you and I said, the media will run with all over Urban's arse (and probably should)
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:56 am to
quote:

I love watching the upvote/downvote count when someone says something that is factually accurate.

This poster pretty much just stated a fact, not even an option. 1 up, 14 down.
I didn't downvote.

But saying this should ONLY be a story WHEN/IF they find direct proof isn't a fact. His wife knowing and the other texts are a story...

You really couldn't be more wrong with your post.


Also, maybe some people are downvoting because they don't believe that Urbs wife kept this shite from him.

Your post is dumb
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111101 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:57 am to
quote:

There is a text message where one of the women talks about "how Urban handled getting the news about Smith"
Change "actually says that" to "confirms that" and we're good.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23136 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:58 am to
quote:

If the 3rd party has direct knowledge, and cant substantiate it, it isnt hearsay



But it hasn't been substantiated by anyone. The guy apparently texted or spoke to his wife about Meyer's reaction, which she relayed to the other wives. Therefore, she can't substantiate what happened, the other guys in the room can
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:58 am to
quote:

I love watching the upvote/downvote count when someone says something that is factually accurate.

This poster pretty much just stated a fact, not even an option. 1 up, 14 down.
pretty big difference when one of the "third party" is his own wife.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95884 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:00 am to
And the poster also said this will only be a story when they have more direct proof


That is as far from a fact as possible here

shel is usually on point with his booms, but he missed it here
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 11:01 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111101 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Also, maybe some people are downvoting because they don't believe that Urbs wife kept this shite from him.

Your post is dumb
I love you calling my post dumb while being willfully naive about why his post was probably downvoted.


You're not actually that naive, right?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95884 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:01 am to
quote:

I love you calling my post dumb while being willfully naive about why his post was probably downvoted.


You're not actually that naive, right?
Dude he said that this will only be a story if they can get more direct evidence


You think that is a fact?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111101 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:01 am to
quote:

And the poster also said this will only be a story when they have more direct proof


That is as far from a fact as possible here
That's fair.

I was moreso really speaking to the idea that we have some evidence but nothing directly tying Urban to this. That part is so based on what we read in the OP.

quote:

shel is usually on point with his booms, but he missed it here
Don't make me bring up yesterdays' Derrick Henry fiasco!!!
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82055 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:02 am to
quote:

I would say the women talking about urban hearing the news is solid evidence here
and one of them is his fricking wife.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 11:02 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95884 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:03 am to
quote:

I was moreso really speaking to the idea that we have some evidence but nothing directly tying Urban to this. That part is so based on what we read in the OP.
I am fine with this line of thinking


But the buckeye oversold it when he said it wouldnt be a story
quote:

Don't make me bring up yesterdays' Derrick Henry fiasco!!!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111101 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Dude he said that this will only be a story if they can get more direct evidence


You think that is a fact?
Wait, you also think that is why the upvote/downvote ratio was what it was?


You're also that naive? Oh man, this is good.

Hell, you can be 100% correct about the story/more evidence, but you're kidding yourself if you think that is why he was downvoted and just just cause, ya know, the MSB hates Meyer with a passion.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111101 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:03 am to
quote:

But the buckeye oversold it when he said it wouldnt be a story

Fair point, and great gif.
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