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Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:00 pm to pbro62
quote:What is?
Useless in determining greatest qb of all time genius
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:37 pm to shel311
Looks like more people are slowly realizing Brees is tGOAT.
Ya'll keep pumping those numbers and facts.
Ya'll keep pumping those numbers and facts.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:08 pm to theunknownknight
I really like Drew Brees. The dude is more than likely going to break every passing record in the books. What's criminal is that he could do it without ever winning a single NFL MVP trophy.
That being said, Brees's numbers are aided by the fact that he plays at least 9 games a season in a dome (counting the away game against Atlanta) and he's spent the majority of his career in an offensive system that closely resembles Texas Tech's air raid offenses of the 00s under Mike Leach.
That being said, Brees's numbers are aided by the fact that he plays at least 9 games a season in a dome (counting the away game against Atlanta) and he's spent the majority of his career in an offensive system that closely resembles Texas Tech's air raid offenses of the 00s under Mike Leach.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:10 pm to RollTide1987
quote:
Brees's numbers are aided by the fact that he plays at least 9 games a season in a dome
this is so over rated
quote:
Texas Tech's air raid offenses of the 00s under Mike Leach.
i love how just because a QB puts up big #'s, then it's the offensive system, but a guy wins 2 SB because 2 other coached go brain dead and throw passes when runnung most like wins the game is the GOAT cause 5 RINGS!
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:14 pm to H-Town Tiger
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i love how just because a QB puts up big #'s, then it's the offense
That's not a knock on Brees. It's just simply stating a fact that he drops back to pass on just about every down. He's #3 all-time in career pass attempts and will be #2 by the end of next season should he remain healthy and play in all 16 games.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:15 pm to RollTide1987
Dude, these guys have done a takedown of almost every point like that in this thread. I'm a Brady dickrider, but the bottom line is they have made a pretty good case that of the the Big Four, D is what has put Brady over the top. I guess I'd still say if I had my life on the line to complete an 80+ yard drive at the end of a game, it would be Brady or Montana with the rock. However, they were aided by great Ds to get them in those situations. I wish some media guy like Russillo would rip off this thread and bring it to the masses.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:16 pm to RollTide1987
When you combine a great QB with a system that takes advantage of his talents, you're going to get gaudy numbers.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:22 pm to Bunk Moreland
The fact that Brady has had good defenses does little to diminish his accomplishments when he's on the field.
Just because you're given an opportunity by a great defense to do something with the football doesn't mean you're always going to come through with a victory. Yeah...New England's defense shut down Atlanta's high-powered offense in the second half. But that didn't guarantee an improbable comeback. That was all Brady on the offensive side of the ball that made it happen.
Can you say beyond a shadow of a doubt that Manning or Brees would have been able to produce a similar comeback if gifted with the same opportunity? You can't because it never happened. You can only speculate.
Would World War I eventually have erupted if Gavrillo Princip hadn't killed Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo in 1914? Possibly. But we'll never know for sure because it was Princip and not some other random person or act that set off the spark that changed the world.
Defense or no defense, Brady has proven his greatness. He has the yards and the touchdowns in both the playoffs and regular season to make his case for #1. He also has the Super Bowls to back it up. Many of you will argue that Super Bowls are team accomplishments. But if Trent Dilfer is quarterbacking the Patriots on Sunday night down 28-3 in the third quarter instead of Brady, we all know what the outcome would have been. Brady was the most instrumental part of that comeback against the Falcons in Super Bowl LI. To deny this is to court ignorance.
Just because you're given an opportunity by a great defense to do something with the football doesn't mean you're always going to come through with a victory. Yeah...New England's defense shut down Atlanta's high-powered offense in the second half. But that didn't guarantee an improbable comeback. That was all Brady on the offensive side of the ball that made it happen.
Can you say beyond a shadow of a doubt that Manning or Brees would have been able to produce a similar comeback if gifted with the same opportunity? You can't because it never happened. You can only speculate.
Would World War I eventually have erupted if Gavrillo Princip hadn't killed Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo in 1914? Possibly. But we'll never know for sure because it was Princip and not some other random person or act that set off the spark that changed the world.
Defense or no defense, Brady has proven his greatness. He has the yards and the touchdowns in both the playoffs and regular season to make his case for #1. He also has the Super Bowls to back it up. Many of you will argue that Super Bowls are team accomplishments. But if Trent Dilfer is quarterbacking the Patriots on Sunday night down 28-3 in the third quarter instead of Brady, we all know what the outcome would have been. Brady was the most instrumental part of that comeback against the Falcons in Super Bowl LI. To deny this is to court ignorance.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:23 pm to RollTide1987
So, lets looks at career yards per attempt. That would negate his "gaudy pass happy system" advantage
Brees: 7.5 Y/A
Brady: 7.5 Y/A
I'm on fire
Brees: 7.5 Y/A
Brady: 7.5 Y/A
I'm on fire
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:25 pm to RollTide1987
quote:50/50 with him and the defense.
Brady was the most instrumental part of that comeback against the Falcons in Super Bowl LI. To deny this is to court ignorance
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:27 pm to lsupride87
To further prove rolltide just makes up talking points,
Brees averages 37 attempts per game
Brady averages 35 attempts per game
But Brees is sooooo pass happy
Brees averages 37 attempts per game
Brady averages 35 attempts per game
But Brees is sooooo pass happy
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:29 pm to lsupride87
quote:
So, lets looks at career yards per attempt. That would negate his "gaudy pass happy system" advantage
Brees: 7.5 Y/A
Brady: 7.5 Y/A
I'm on fire
He also has over 500 more pass attempts than Brady which is equivalent to an entire season's worth of pass attempts. I believe less than 5,000 yards separates the two in career yardage as well. If Brady had played the '08 season, their yardage numbers would probably be close to identical right now.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:30 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:30 pm to RollTide1987
quote:we do per game averages for a reason.....
He also has over 500 more pass attempts than Brady which is equivalent to an entire season's worth of pass attempts. I believe less than 5,000 yards separates the two in career yardage as well. If Brady had played the '08 season, their yardage numbers would probably be close to identical right now.
Brady averages 35 attempts a game
Brees averages 37 attempts a game
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:31 pm to lsupride87
Just admit I shut down another one of your fake talking points
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:32 pm to lsupride87
quote:
50/50 with him and the defense.
You can't win if you can't score. A defense can play the game of their lives and still lose a game 3-0. You need an offense and capable QB to actually put points on the board. And when you're down 25 points with just over two minutes to go in the third quarter, most of the credit for that comeback has to go to the offense.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:32 pm to lsupride87
Brees tGOAT is RISING
stay WOKE
stay WOKE
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:33 pm to RollTide1987
quote:This is one of the stupidest posts in this thread
You can't win if you can't score. A defense can play the game of their lives and still lose a game 3-0. You need an offense and capable QB to actually put points on the board. And when you're down 25 points with just over two minutes to go in the third quarter, most of the credit for that comeback has to go to the offense.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:37 pm to lsupride87
quote:
we do per game averages for a reason.....
Brady averages 35 attempts a game
Brees averages 37 attempts a game
This is revealing information and I thank you for bringing this up. Because had Brady not sat out the '08 season with an injury, his numbers would be just as good as Brees's (potentially).
So I fail to see your argument as to how and why Brees is better than Brady.
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