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re: Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers: A chart based on scoring defense

Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:27 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:27 am to
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Brees had one Brady had many many more at the beginning of his careee. I know you aren't this dumb.

Playoff games before turning 28

Brees-3

Brady-6

Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:27 am to
You're the one using stats only like you don't even watch the games.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61034 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:27 am to
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Brady was starting playoff games when he first came into the league. Brees was in his prime when he made the playoffs. That can't be held against Brady.


So, we should not count Brady's first 3 playoff appearances to be fair?

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Also the whole Brady has played over 3x the amount of playoff games


Gee, i wonder if the quality of his defense was related?

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Brees played v garbage defenses for the most part. Brady going up against the all time greats in ravens and broncos.


The Broncos last year were great, but Brady did not play the 2000 Ravens. Their other D's may have been good, but not on that level, what do you have to back up your claim about Brees playing "garbage" defenses? In 2006 the Saints played the Eagles #16 and Bears #3. In 2009 Az 15, Minn 10 and Indy 8 (As a side note that's 3 HOF QB's)
In 10 Sea was 23, 11 SF was #2. 13 Philly #17 and Sea #1. Side note Carolina from "garbage" division was #2.

Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:28 am to


28? Wtf is that number for

"Oh let me pick a number that doesn't mean anything but makes my point look good"

Dog don't hunt bubba.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:28 am to
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Brees played v garbage defenses for the most part. Brady going up against the all time greats in ravens and broncos.


In Drew's 10 playoff games:

60% against top 10 scoring defense
40% against top 5 scoring defenses
80% against top 15 scoring defenses
10% against defenses ranked 20 or worse (like the Falcons)
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:29 am to
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If you take one players peak. And compare It to another players whole career. The results will be skewed
You pick the 5 year peak of Brady's playoff career, we'll compare them to Brees's entire playoff career.

Go!!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:29 am to
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You're the one using stats only like you don't even watch the games.

So why'd you say you'd concede Brees>Brady in the playoffs?


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:30 am to
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n Drew's 10 playoff games:

60% against top 10 scoring defense
40% against top 5 scoring defenses
80% against top 15 scoring defenses
10% against defenses ranked 20 or worse (like the Falcons)
Speaking of that dog don't hunt, someone put Boom down, it's for his own good!!!
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:30 am to
Nope. Don't really care to do that. Qb rating doesn't tell me anything without context and I already got all the context I need.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:31 am to
Haven't seen anyone else give matty the nod yet .....
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:31 am to
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Nope. Don't really care to do that. Qb rating doesn't tell me anything without context and I already got all the context I need.



There has been plenty of context provided to you in this thread.

You've just got your head so far up your arse that you can't see it. Hell of a view from your "eye test".
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111656 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:31 am to
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Playoff games before turning 28

Brees-3

Brady-6



Stats in those games

Brees

63%----305 yards/game-----1.6tds/g-----0.666ints/g-----93 avg rating


Brady

61%-----227yds/game-----1td/g-------0.5int/g-----82 avg rating
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:32 am to
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Haven't seen anyone else give matty the nod yet .....



Matt Ryan has been pretty exceptional in the playoffs. He was great in the Super Bowl as well.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61034 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:32 am to
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Playoff games before turning 28

Brees-3

Brady-6


Brady's birthday is August 3, 1977. He turned 28 on 8/3/05. He started SB XXXVI, XXXVIII and XXXIX, Super Bowl XXXIX was played on February 6, 2005. So that's 9 playoff starts before 28.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111656 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:32 am to
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28? Wtf is that number for

"Oh let me pick a number that doesn't mean anything but makes my point look good"

Dog don't hunt bubba.
You said before their prime? Is 28 not a good number for that? It is 6 years after being in the league......
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:33 am to
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Nope. Don't really care to do that.
Ok, but did you forget that you offered to do that?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:33 am to
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Haven't seen anyone else give matty the nod yet .....

What's it matter, you already admitted you wouldn't do so even though you said you'd do so, so what are you arguing right now?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:35 am to
It's made up bubba to try to improve your point.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:35 am to
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It's made up bubba to try to improve your point.





"eye test"

This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 11:37 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:36 am to
The only people who don't believe in eye test are those who have a Shitty one. I.e. Guys like you who have to lean way too heavily on stats bc you don't really know and understand the game.
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