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re: Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers: A chart based on scoring defense

Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:09 am to
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:09 am to
No I won't. Bc Im not a statboy/stat worshipper like you and your ilk. You gotta be able to recognise context and know what stats to apply and when. You are sorely lacking.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111650 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:10 am to
Brees

66%----321 yards/game------2.2tds----0.54ints-------101 rating


Brady

63%------267yards/game-------1.85tds------.91ints------89 rating




Ryan


68%-------281yards/game------2.2tds/game------0.88ints----102 rating





I would say Brees and Ryan are even, and a good bit ahead of Brady in terms of playoff performance from the QB position.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 11:11 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111650 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:12 am to
quote:

You gotta be able to recognise context and know what stats to apply and when
I have applied passer rating, points per play, yards per game, tds/game, ints/game, passer rating, stats in losses, stats in wins.


Please tell me what context I am missing?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:14 am to
Brady was starting playoff games when he first came into the league. Brees was in his prime when he made the playoffs. That can't be held against Brady. Also the whole Brady has played over 3x the amount of playoff games. Brees played v garbage defenses for the most part. Brady going up against the all time greats in ravens and broncos.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:16 am to
quote:

No I won't. Bc Im not a statboy/stat worshipper like you and your ilk. You gotta be able to recognise context and know what stats to apply and when. You are sorely lacking.



Man, if only there was a job position where someone could analyze data for a living to make informed decisions or recognize trends.

Man, if only there were people on here who actually do it for a living.


You're just so much smarter than everyone else. This is the Da Vinci Code, and you're Tom Hanks

This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 11:17 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111650 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:17 am to
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Brees was in his prime when he made the playoffs


Drew Brees first playoff game was at 25 years old

31/42----74%------319yds------2tds----1int-------101 rating

Care to guess the age of brady in his first playoff game?

This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 11:19 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:18 am to
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Brady was starting playoff games when he first came into the league.


You mean how Drew Brees was playing more outdoor games when he first came into the league?

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Also the whole Brady has played over 3x the amount of playoff games.


Brees has enough playoff data to draw conclusions from.

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Brees played v garbage defenses for the most part. Brady going up against the all time greats in ravens and broncos.




Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:18 am to
And some people here have elite level eye tests. Look the stats agree with what my eye test tells me 90%+ of the time. but I don't use the stats to make my decision. I see what i see and base my opinion on that. If I'm using stats here it's because they agree with what i see. Since you obviously aren't seeing what I am, well that's when the stats help out.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 11:19 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111650 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:19 am to
So are you going to answer how old Brady was in his first playoff game?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111650 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:19 am to
Let me post again


Drew Brees first playoff game was at 25 years old

31/42----74%------319yds------2tds----1int-------101 rating

Care to guess the age of brady in his first playoff game?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:20 am to
Oh 10 games is enough?

Dak must be on his way to being GOAT then.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:21 am to
Age don't matter as much as how much NFL experience did he have. So no I won't even look it up.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111650 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:22 am to
Let me fricking answer for you

Brees was 25 in his first playoff game

Brady was 24

So please tell me again how Brady had to start out of his prime, while Brees was in his


Holy shite how many times have I proven people wrong in here with facts?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:22 am to
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Oh 10 games is enough?



Yes, 10 games large enough.

quote:

Dak must be on his way to being GOAT then.


Are you retarded?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111650 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:22 am to
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Age don't matter as much as how much NFL experience did he have. So no I won't even look it up.

Wait, so Brees should be penalized for being better at a younger age? :rotflmao:
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:23 am to
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Brees played v garbage defenses for the most part. Brady going up against the all time greats in ravens and broncos.


So Seattle, Minny, SF, and Chicago were shite defenses?

Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:24 am to
Brees had one Brady had many many more at the beginning of his careee. I know you aren't this dumb.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:25 am to
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I'll give you that Brees > Brady. If you use the same stats to say that Ryan > Brees.


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No I won't. Bc Im not a statboy/stat worshipper like you and your ilk. You gotta be able to recognise context and know what stats to apply and when. You are sorely lacking.




Boom gonna Boom
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:26 am to
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Brady was starting playoff games when he first came into the league. Brees was in his prime when he made the playoffs. That can't be held against Brady
For the 2nd time, You pick a Brady 5 year playoff timeframe, i'll give you his numbers compared to Brees's total playoff numbers.

Go!


Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:27 am to
If you take one players peak. And compare It to another players whole career. The results will be skewed. Brady has been in the playoffs his whole career. When he wasn't the qb he is now. Basically all of Brees playoff games were when he was in his prime.

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