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re: Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers: A chart based on scoring defense
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:37 am to lsupride87
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:37 am to lsupride87
quote:Decreases the chance of your team winning, all of these!!!
Higher %, more yards, more tds, less ints per game
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:42 am to Boomshockalocka
Brady is the GOAT. Brees is the NFL equivalent to a Texas Tech QB. He only puts up gaudy #s because He has to. He was an average QB until he got NO. He benefitted from playing in a garbage division,a dome, and an air raid offense. NOs focused on defense it just never got time to rest because they were on the field all the time
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:46 am to TJGator1215
quote:Yea, when he just had to win that SB, he put up some good numbers, right?
He only puts up gaudy #s because He has to
quote:Did you know that the Saints have had a higher time of possession than the Patriots over the years? Time to rethink that one...
NOs focused on defense it just never got time to rest because they were on the field all the time
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:47 am to Boomshockalocka
This man is really comparing Cody Kessler to Drew Brees
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:48 am to TJGator1215
Yep. Look I love looking at the numbers but holy smokes some posters here have no sense of context. Matty Ryan > Brees tho by their metrics win some lose some I reckon.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:52 am to TJGator1215
quote:Except Brees actually has a higer TOP than Brady
He benefitted from playing in a garbage division,a dome, and an air raid offense. NOs focused on defense it just never got time to rest because they were on the field all the time
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:56 am to TJGator1215
quote:
He benefitted from playing in a garbage division
Compared to what? The AFC East
In case you missed it, the last 2 SB reps from the NFC were from Brees division
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:56 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:Zing!!!!
Compared to what? The AFC East
Jets/Dolphins/Bills have cleared had so much more success than TB/ATL/CAR these last 10-15 seasons.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 10:58 am
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:58 am to TJGator1215
quote:
Brady is the GOAT. Brees is the NFL equivalent to a Texas Tech QB. He only puts up gaudy #s because He has to. He was an average QB until he got NO. He benefitted from playing in a garbage division,a dome, and an air raid offense. NOs focused on defense it just never got time to rest because they were on the field all the time
I love how shel and 87 have been straight up dominating this thread with 20 pages of facts and stats that prove their case, then a complete moron like you comes in and spouts unsubstantiated shite that goes against everything that can be proven. That's just amazing.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:58 am to shel311
I'll give you that Brees > Brady. If you use the same stats to say that Ryan > Brees.
¿That work for you?
¿That work for you?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:00 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:Has Ryan played the position better than Brees in the playoffs? I hadn't checked.
I'll give you that Brees > Brady. If you use the same stats to say that Ryan > Brees.
¿That work for you?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:01 am to shel311
Yes by your 'I'll only look at the numbers at not sue my brain" way of deciding things.
Passer rating
YPA
Completion %
Etc
Etc
All lean Ryan.
Passer rating
YPA
Completion %
Etc
Etc
All lean Ryan.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:03 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:I disagree. They are near even
If you use the same stats to say that Ryan > Brees.
Brees leads Brady in completion %, tds, ints, rating, and yards.
Ryan leads Brees in completion % and rating, but Brees leads in yards, and ints
Tied in tds
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 11:03 am
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:04 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:So if Brees is worse in all of those things, how does that translate to Brees playing the position better than Ryan?
Yes by your 'I'll only look at the numbers at not sue my brain" way of deciding things.
Passer rating
YPA
Completion %
Etc
Etc
All lean Ryan.
If NE missed that last 2pt conversion, would Ryan's numbers then be validated since they'd both have 1 ring?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:04 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:Umm, is the etc etc yards per game, and int%? Which go to Brees?
Etc
Etc
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:04 am to lsupride87
if you are willing to admit they are even I'll take it.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:04 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:They are in terms of playoff performance. Why wouldnt I admit that?
if you are willing to admit they are even I'll take it.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:05 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:Seems like it's close based on the numbers.
if you are willing to admit they are even I'll take it.
So you'll concede playoff Brees has played the position of QB better than playoff Brady?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:07 am to shel311
Higher rating, but
18 TDs to 7 INTs
280.5 YPG
68.1 comp % (very good)
3-5 record
Brees:
24 TDs to 6 INTs
321.7 YPG
65.9 comp %
6-5 record
Let's not forget Atlanta scoring 2 points against the Giants, which Ryan obviously had nothing to do with. That would never happen with Brees
18 TDs to 7 INTs
280.5 YPG
68.1 comp % (very good)
3-5 record
Brees:
24 TDs to 6 INTs
321.7 YPG
65.9 comp %
6-5 record
Let's not forget Atlanta scoring 2 points against the Giants, which Ryan obviously had nothing to do with. That would never happen with Brees
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 11:10 am
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