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re: Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers: A chart based on scoring defense

Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:33 am to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:33 am to
PJ, the stat nerds have finally gotten through to me. All I can come up with now is subjective clutch arguments.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 8:38 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111339 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:21 am to
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subjective clutch arguments
So, you like Brees the best?


Passer rating regular season vs playoffs. Mother frickin Brees goes up. CLUTCH

Brady goes from 97.2 to 89.0

Manning goes from 96.5 to 87.4

Brees goes from 96.3 to 100.7

Rodgers goes from 104.2 to 99.4
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 9:22 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:25 am to
quote:

PJ, the stat nerds have finally gotten through to me. All I can come up with now is subjective clutch arguments.

Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59909 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:33 am to
Blowing out two garbage can wild card teams at home in a dome inflating your passer rating isn't exactly clutch.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111339 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:43 am to
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Blowing out two garbage can wild card teams at home in a dome inflating your passer rating isn't exactly clutch.
In Brees playoff losses with the Saints(which were all on the road), his numbers per game are

32/51----63%------370yards-----2tds-----0.8ints------92 rating


You are a stupid son of a bitch
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59909 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:50 am to
92 rating is Andy dalton. Cody Kessler. Alex smith territory.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111339 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:51 am to
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92 rating is Andy dalton. Cody Kessler. Alex smith territory.

It is above Brady and Manning. And would have him 12th all time in playoff passer rating you stupid son of a bitch


ETA: Daltons playoff passer rating is 57.8 you stupid son of a bitch
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 9:53 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59909 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:52 am to
Sample size..guess you never heard of it.

If you only have 4 or 5 games to look at we can compare it to the 4 or 5 games that Kessler played.

Not the 100s of games that others have played.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 9:53 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59909 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:53 am to
He's Iike a regular season code Kessler. What a great qb.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111339 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:53 am to
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Sample size..guess you never heard of it.

Oh, sample size? You are the one that used 2 games to discredit Brees playoff passer rating you stupid son of a bitch
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111339 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:54 am to
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He's Iike a regular season code Kessler. What a great qb.
Bradys playoff passer rating is 89. Who is he like?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59909 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:54 am to
Well when you only play 10 playoff games compared to 35 plus with Brady. 2 games carries a lot of weight.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59909 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:55 am to
Brady is playing games in cold. Outside. Doesn't have the benfit of playing the games in a dome with perfect conditions like you know who.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111339 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:57 am to
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Brady is playing games in cold. Outside. Doesn't have the benfit of playing the games in a dome with perfect conditions like you know who.

64% of Brees playoff games have been played outdoors you stupid son of a bitch
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68333 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:57 am to
My favorite counter to that is somebody said earlier in the thread that if Brees was on a team that trained and regularly played in those conditions, he would be just fine.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 9:58 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111339 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:00 am to
Brees the last 3 seasons. So 95.7 in outside stadiums.

This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 10:01 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Blowing out two garbage can wild card teams at home in a dome inflating your passer rating isn't exactly clutch.



How'd Brady do in the Super Bowl against that wild card team, twice?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:05 am to
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92 rating is Andy dalton. Cody Kessler. Alex smith territory.
So explain Peyton Manning and Brady's career passer rating in the playoffs, they're less than Dalton/Kessler/Smith territory, so...

quote:

He's Iike a regular season code Kessler. What a great qb.

So playoff Brady is less than a regular season playoff Kessler per your logic.

Nice!!!
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 10:07 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:06 am to
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My favorite counter to that is somebody said earlier in the thread that if Brees was on a team that trained and regularly played in those conditions, he would be just fine.



The issue the Saints have on the road doesn't have anything to do with the conditions.

We have major substitution issues and clock management issues on the road due to constantly changing personnel and formations. I really wish we would go hurry up, no-huddle more often on the road.

We have no issues with at home when there isn't crowd noise, but for some reason we struggle with it on the road.

That plus a poor running game and a bad defense equals trouble on the road
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:08 am to
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My favorite counter to that is somebody said earlier in the thread that if Brees was on a team that trained and regularly played in those conditions, he would be just fine.
Not sure what your position is here?

Are you saying that if you play your entire career outdoors, you aren't going to have a better handle on the conditions than if you play your entire career of home games in a dome?
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