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LHSAA Convention... Major votes pushed to a special June meeting

Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:25 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:25 pm
From Geauxpreps

Basically the principals now have to ratify the changes the Executive Committee made last summer in the interest of fairness and competition, which brought us from 9 football state championships to 8 and made the football playoff brackets more interesting again

Some skeptics thought the changes, which nearly evened the number of select and nonselect schools, were a step toward ultimately ending the select/nonselect split, which is now a decade old. But that isn't likely to happen.

From the Louisiana Prep Scoreboard facebook

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Now, principals want to take something that has shown to be a much better alternative for the student-athletes and again, the public school principals are pushing to go back to 50 teams with losing records, margins of victory so large a mercy rule had to be implemented, and 0, 1, & 2 win teams being rewarded with a trip to the playoffs. You think these same principals would allow a senior to graduate if they had the same success rate as their fooball team?.

Their true colors are about to shine.


On the side of the splitters, Anacoco's principal appears to have taken the lead from Many and Winnfield before them





This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 1:48 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:26 pm to
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You think these same principals would allow a senior to graduate if they had the same success rate as their fooball team?.


Yes. Otherwise their numbers look bad.
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:29 pm to
Just make a separate organization for the anti-splitters. Sick of this shite
Posted by High C
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:46 pm to
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On the side of the splitters, Anacoco's principal appears to have taken the lead from Many and Winnfield before them


How much is Anacoco affected? They don’t even have football.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 5:03 pm
Posted by clamdip
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:58 pm to
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a much better alternative for the student-athletes

One thing LHSAA has never been interested in is what's best for student-athletes.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 12:55 pm to
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Bump

This article explains things further… there’s a bad feeling that the principals are going to vote down the new divisions and have things revert to the previous format… it seems like everything has been done since the split with the purpose to have as many teams in the state playoffs as possible across all classes
Posted by OldSouth
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 4:26 pm to
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This article explains things further… there’s a bad feeling that the principals are going to vote down the new divisions and have things revert to the previous format… it seems like everything has been done since the split with the purpose to have as many teams in the state playoffs as possible across all classes
Well, if they vote it down then there would be less teams in basketball playoffs next month. Select would go from 24 to 16.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 5:30 pm to
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Well, if they vote it down then there would be less teams in basketball playoffs next month


28, 28, 28, 28, 28, 24, 24, 24, 24, 14 = 250

Vs

32, 32, 32, 32, 24, 24, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16 = 272 minus a few byes
Posted by LCLa
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:09 pm to
This thing has made some strange groups of allies.

Four general camps, in order of who likes the new system best:

1. Non-selects who stayed non-select

2. Always been selects who now have more potential playoff opponents

3. Non-selects who now feel they are being forced to “play up”

4. Non-selects who got moved to select
Posted by Ghost of Colby
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:31 pm to
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it seems like everything has been done since the split with the purpose to have as many teams in the state playoffs as possible across all classes

That makes it easier on the principals. Unless their athletic department is a complete dumpster fire, then their teams frequently qualify for the playoffs.

Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:36 pm to
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4. Non-selects who got moved to select


I imagine the JP public schools are probably pissed… but they didn’t have to make an open enrollment policy

Especially Grand Isle with the most useless open enrollment policy ever (with that being said, they probably don’t care that they’re in select, as long as they get to play a few games and have fun)
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:43 pm to
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Four general camps, in order of who likes the new system best: 1. Non-selects who stayed non-select 2. Always been selects who now have more potential playoff opponents
hopefully these two groups combined will have the simple majority needed to keep the new division setup… I think they combine for 65-70%
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:37 pm to
So essentially the same old bullshite from the principles. They try and make it fair and people still bitch, not to mention a 7 point list that essentially says

frick you parents, as principals we own the kids in our district…..how fricking dare you move your kid to a better school!!!!

Why don’t they just come out say…I’m a fat pussy who is unwilling to compete and make my school better both in academics and athletics and I’ll be damned if I’m gonna just allow you to seek better alternatives without some kind of punishment!!!
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:42 pm to
That’s disappointing, I really liked the alternative they enforced last spring
Posted by PhillyTiger90
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 4:12 am to
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ultimately ending the select/nonselect split, which is now a decade old. But that isn't likely to happen.


Posted by TheBob
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:13 am to
I’m of the understanding that all of the main football things are being tabled until summer
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:35 am to


Sounds to me that the principals want as many teams in the playoffs as possible because it is an additional gameday check. Results be damned

Why am I pro-split? I do not feel there is even access to regional talent. All schools should be allowed to recruit talent to their schools. The fact that selects can go outside their attendance zones and poach great athletes yet non-selects are shut out is not fair. I understand non-selects recruit today but they are hampered by having to ask a family to move their home into an attendance zone

Allow both sides to go after the best kids without thought of attendance zones.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:51 am to
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The fact that selects can go outside their attendance zones and poach great athletes yet non-selects are shut out is not fair


Maybe instead of sitting out one year, kids that fit that description and don’t live in the same parish as a select school should have to sit out until they’re seniors… maybe even JV too. Let’s see who’s really going to get their education.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 9:52 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:14 am to
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One thing LHSAA has never been interested in is what's best for student-athletes.
the LHSAA is made up of principals from member schools and they call the shots.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:21 am to
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This article explains things further… there’s a bad feeling that the principals are going to vote down the new divisions and have things revert to the previous format… it seems like everything has been done since the split with the purpose to have as many teams in the state playoffs as possible across all classes
I've talked to about 25 principals in the past two weeks and.....
8 always been selects will vote for it, 7 non selects that stayed their same class division will vote for it, split 2-2 vote by non selects that had to play up, new selects vote split 3-3. so with this sampling - it passes - the big gripe from some is that this should have been done before schedules were made.
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