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re: Lets talk about americas lack of interest in soccer
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:30 pm to pvilleguru
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:30 pm to pvilleguru
quote:While true, it's to an extent, the International stage lets us see stars on the same team play together and sometimes it provides exciting chemistry. I love club ball don't get me wrong, but I love watching international soccer, nothing like National pride.
Personally, I'd rather watch a club match. On the International stage, the players have very little time to practice together so they don't have much chemistry. Club teams basically play together year round which allows them to play faster.
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:32 pm to tress4pres
Yeah it depends partly on where you live but the coverage today completely obliterated anything that existed even 10 years ago. Go look at what NBC payed for EPL rights in America compared to the previous deal Fox had. It's a far far far more popular spectator sport now than it was 20 years ago and it's not debateable.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:34 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I don't think I there's a single sport that I actively dislike. Most people who say they hate soccer have never really given it a chance, particularly those over 30. To each his own I guess, but it strikes me as very closed minded.
Quite the opposite. I've been around it a lot, played several years growing up and watched plenty of it. I travel to Europe frequently and watch Champions League games with customers. In that kind of environment, in a social setting with a lot of beer, it can be fun. Other than that it's just not for me. Offsides calls and fake injuries drive me nuts and watching 90 minutes of action for maybe 1 goal scored can be painful.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:35 pm to Bluefin
There's flopping, and then there's flopping. There is plenty of footage of soccer players flopping from merely glancing each other, or to act like they're leg is broken only to get up without even a limp.
Telling people they need to stop being prejudiced and love a boring game is asking way to much of way too many.
If soccer really wanted to change, they would start first by getting rid of offsides or at the least bit changing it to allow for some decent offensive scoring (scores similar to those of baseball or hockey)
The reality is that the US doesn't need soccer as much as soccer wants the US to play soccer
Telling people they need to stop being prejudiced and love a boring game is asking way to much of way too many.
If soccer really wanted to change, they would start first by getting rid of offsides or at the least bit changing it to allow for some decent offensive scoring (scores similar to those of baseball or hockey)
The reality is that the US doesn't need soccer as much as soccer wants the US to play soccer
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:36 pm to tress4pres
Do offsides calls and fake injuries to slow down the spread bother you in football? What about epic 9-6 or 7-3 defensive struggles? 
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:37 pm to Bluefin
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Also, the sport requires much more than what the youth soccer players are taught in this country, and many of them quit the sport when they realize that actual fundamentals and balance are required to play at higher levels. Europeans know this from the moment they can even kick a ball.
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Sounds like you're a shitty parent.
on cue
arrogant soccer fans don't help much
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:38 pm to 1fairbank
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If soccer really wanted to change, they would start first by getting rid of offsides
Jesus you sound like a Euro who says they don't like American football because of all the stopping and starting and also because the players wear all that armor.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:46 pm to 1fairbank
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The reality is that the US doesn't need soccer as much as soccer wants the US to play soccer
europe and south america do NOT want the US getting good in soccer, bro
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
The US can't catch up with the rest of the world anyways. The culture surrounding sports is totally different.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:48 pm to SabiDojo
I think we could but probably not in our lifetimes
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:53 pm to SabiDojo
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lack of interest in soccer
It has to do with the lack of scoring and how the NFL revolutionized the way we watch sports.
Casual NFL/NBA fans aren't use to end to end action with "nothing" happening. Ie the build up of long periods without scoring.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:55 pm to SabiDojo
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The US can't catch up with the rest of the world anyways.
yes we can
portugal has 11M people
the netherlands has 17M people
spain has 47M people
italy has 59M people
germany has about 80M people
we have the population to compete ...at least up to approximately spain's population
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The culture surrounding sports is totally different.
what do you mean?
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:56 pm to 1fairbank
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Telling people they need to stop being prejudiced and love a boring game is asking way to much of way too many.
If people can see the excitement in an 11 inning 1-0 finish to a baseball game, they can undoubtedly appreciate all that goes into a soccer game.
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If soccer really wanted to change, they would start first by getting rid of offsides or at the least bit changing it to allow for some decent offensive scoring (scores similar to those of baseball or hockey)
Offsides calls don't prevent goals nearly as much as some people seem to think they do. But by eliminating this rule, you actually may have less scoring because the strategy would just be to crowd the box with defenders.
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The reality is that the US doesn't need soccer as much as soccer wants the US to play soccer
Soccer is the one true world sport and it is only fitting that we dominate it. Think of the pride you get during the Olympics when we destroy everyone and imagine feeling that way all the time, because that is what it would be like if we were the best at soccer.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
You're right in that it definitely can be done but I think he's talking about the academy system
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
I mean how countries hold tryouts in villages where they hold a historical imperial influence and practically adopt the kids and bring them onto clubs at ages as young as 9.
Here in the US, clubs would be crucified as "Slaveholders" or that they are forcing these kids into child labor.
Here in the US, clubs would be crucified as "Slaveholders" or that they are forcing these kids into child labor.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:01 pm to Baloo
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FOUR. Offsides.
The rule would be much more palatable to many American viewers if it was applied the way that it was meant to be applied: giving the benefit of the doubt to the attacking player. It's not difficult to exploit a true offside trap as an attacking player. It is when you are 10 yards clear, and the linesman fails to recognize that the 2nd to last defender stepped late.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:02 pm to SabiDojo
well, we have no problem with kids having to basically do this with certain sports (tennis namely, but golf and other similar sports to an extent)
baseball fans have no problem with their teams signing kids who did this in the carribean/south america
also, the education those kids get in academies is better than they'd get otherwise. if we were taking kids out of the ghetto and giving them similar opportunities, it would be seen as a good thing
baseball fans have no problem with their teams signing kids who did this in the carribean/south america
also, the education those kids get in academies is better than they'd get otherwise. if we were taking kids out of the ghetto and giving them similar opportunities, it would be seen as a good thing
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
And I totally agree, but I'm just saying it seems like it would be a tough sell over here.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:04 pm to SabiDojo
i don't really think it would
we could likely overcome the youth academy issue (at least american academies) if we just cut youth fields in half
if we just had 14-16 year olds going to academies, i SERIOUSLY doubt people would care
we could likely overcome the youth academy issue (at least american academies) if we just cut youth fields in half
if we just had 14-16 year olds going to academies, i SERIOUSLY doubt people would care
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:05 pm to joey barton
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The rule would be much more palatable to many American viewers if it was applied the way that it was meant to be applied: giving the benefit of the doubt to the attacking player.
agreed. But it's like the neutral zone trap in hockey. It's exploiting the lax enforcement of a rule. And it ruins the game. Hockey hasn't totally stamped out the trap, but they made an effort to do so.
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