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re: LeBron=excuses
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:25 pm to texastiger38
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:25 pm to texastiger38
quote:
I still like Lebron though. DWI
I pick a playoff team if the rockets aren't in it, but not a player. And I just think it's boring to pick the odds on favorite... I bet Lebron fans don't like gambling
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:25 pm to jimithing11
quote:
jimithing11
Did that sound clever when you thought of it?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:26 pm to shel311
And to answer the question myself, the last time the PER leader was on a championship team was during the first laker three-peat, 10 years ago...prior to PER.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:26 pm to HT713
quote:
I pick a playoff team if the rockets aren't in it, but not a player
Understandable, if the Rockets were playing the Heat in the Finals I'd be outside burning a Lebron jersey though.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:27 pm to HT713
I bet Houston fans dont either dick
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:27 pm to texastiger38
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit if the rockets were playing the heat in the finals I would avoid this board like the plague
edit: Yeah wit b/c gambling isn't legal in houston..... YET
edit: Yeah wit b/c gambling isn't legal in houston..... YET
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:29 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Kobe's led the NBA in usage rate 3 times, the last 2 seasons I believe.
YOU don't understand PER. It is more slanted towards USAGE
Kobe has never led the NBA in PER I believe.
So...is it really slanted towards usage?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:29 pm to theunknownknight
quote:1 out of 12, that proves zero, you realize that, correct?
And to answer the question myself, the last time the PER leader was on a championship team was during the first laker three-peat, 10 years ago...prior to PER
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:36 pm to UnluckyTiger
People like going against the grain, it used to be unacceptable to hate Lebron now that everyone does you see others loving him more and more. Some people will like or love him just to argue.
FTR: I dislike, don't hate him.
FTR: I dislike, don't hate him.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:39 pm to shel311
quote:
Kobe's led the NBA in usage rate 3 times, the last 2 seasons I believe.
Kobe has never led the NBA in PER I believe.
So...is it really slanted towards usage?
quote:
I have had a great time teaching a sports and math class to Kelley School of Business students at Indiana University. One of my ace students Paul Aynilian did a study trying to estimate John Hollinger’s famous ESPN PER Ratings based on box score statistics. We found that
45.75*(Points/Minute)+22.55*(Rebounds/Minute)+32.8*(Assists/Minute)+58.2*(Steals/Minute)-48.65*(Turnovers/Minute)
-39.73*(Missed FG’s per minute) -20.6*(Missed FT per minute)+38.37*(Blocked Shots Per Miute)-18.68*(Personal Fouls Per Minute)
explains over 99% of the variation in this season’s PER rankings and is off by an average of .37 in estimating the PER of the top 200 NBA players whose stats are on Yahoo.com. So basically our simple formula virtually duplicates the PER rating without a lot of mumbo jumbo.
The disturbing thing about these weights is that if an NBA player shot 33 .33% (1-3) then the more shots they take the higher their PER because shooting 1 for 3 gives you a net contribution of 2(45.75)-2(39.73)>0!! Clearly this is bad because a 33% shooter is not a good shooter and with these weights the more shots a bad shooter takes, the higher his PER rating.
LINK
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:40 pm to shel311
quote:
1 out of 12, that proves zero, you realize that, correct?
1 out of 12 disproves your implied 12 out of 12 assertion.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:41 pm to WITNESS23
quote:
Did that sound clever when you thought of it?
It was clever before I wrote it, clever while I was writing it and clever after I wrote it
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:43 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Holy shite
1 out of 12 disproves your implied 12 out of 12 assertion.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:45 pm to theunknownknight
Ok
Lebron 621 - 1,169 53.1%
Kobe 574 - 1,336 43.0%
So Lebron has taken less shots and made more than Kobe. I guess Kobe's PER is inflated
Lebron 621 - 1,169 53.1%
Kobe 574 - 1,336 43.0%
So Lebron has taken less shots and made more than Kobe. I guess Kobe's PER is inflated
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:45 pm to theunknownknight
Kobe led the lead in shot attempts - 17th in PER
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:47 pm to WITNESS23
quote:
So Lebron has taken less shots and made more than Kobe. I guess Kobe's PER is inflated
i hate these Kobe/Lebron debates but Lebron takes much higher percentage shots
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:49 pm to Louie T
Can you read? Shel is saying PER is the most "predictive" measurement.
I asked of what??? Winning is the only thing that matters.
I then showed him that the leader in PER hasn't won anything of significance in the last 10 years.
I asked of what??? Winning is the only thing that matters.
I then showed him that the leader in PER hasn't won anything of significance in the last 10 years.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:50 pm to theunknownknight
Sure can; you took predictive to mean 100%. You are a fricking moron.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:51 pm to theunknownknight
WHAT? 
Again, Kobe led the league in usage rate and shot attempts this season correct?
Why didn't Kobe lead in PER?
Again, Kobe led the league in usage rate and shot attempts this season correct?
Why didn't Kobe lead in PER?
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:52 pm to theunknownknight
Oh and you should check Hollinger's team efficiency ratings in relation to championship teams, that's a real riot.
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