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re: LeBron=excuses

Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:12 pm to
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The offensive and defensive team rankings aren't supposed to be predictive in regards to winning.


So this is another stat from Hollinger that predicts what exactly?
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:14 pm to
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The Dantoni/Nash Suns would have to be at or near the top of the offensive rankings,


Loved watching those guys.

Damn shame they never got past the WC finals.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:14 pm to
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He's linking them to prove PER is flawed.

It makes no sense, whatsoever.


You're the tard that brought "predictability" into this thread related to PER in the first place. I simply asked what was being "predicted" after the creation of PER as a tool. You could not and did not answer that.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:15 pm to


Those two stats aren't supposed to predict anything. Offensive efficienecy is literally just the number of points teams score per 100 possessions. That's it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:16 pm to
What do offensive ratings have to do with per? lol
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:17 pm to
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What do offensive ratings have to do with per? lol


Same creator lol
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:19 pm to
How did it remotely prove anything?

It's a number. That's it.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:22 pm to
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How did it remotely prove anything?

It's a number. That's it.


This is ALL I've been saying about PER. Now you are coming around.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:23 pm to
LOL
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:39 pm to
Not gonna read all this, but LBJ has been playing out of position, IMO for his entire career. 6'8, listed at 250 (although some say he's closer to 270) with a 7 foot wingspan the guy should be playing power forward 100% of the time. He's got one of the highest FG% posting up in the league. Having him on the low block(with his quickness being a HUGE advantage) and Bosh(when healthy) at the high post with Wade on the ball would create the Heat's best chance of winning. Three all world talents doing three separate things. LBJ'svision would still be a viable weapon, if not enhanced when double teamed in the post.

It'll never happen because he's good on the outside too, but if he ever did commit to that, The Heat would have more balance, wouldn't call so many iso's and all of their talents could be utilized to near maximum efficiency.

Again, just my 2 cents.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 3:41 pm
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:45 pm to
Agree with pretty much all of that.


He doesn't trust his post game as much as he should IMO.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:47 pm to
You agree that a guy with Lebron's skillset should be playing PF 100% of the time?

You could make a better argument that he should be playing PG. Just because he can play the 4 does not mean you waste him there.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:55 pm to
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You agree that a guy with Lebron's skillset should be playing PF 100% of the time?

You could make a better argument that he should be playing PG. Just because he can play the 4 does not mean you waste him there


The guy has been playing point guard most of his career, even though he isn't officially the point guard. How is playing at the four a waste? Isn't he capable of dominating there? A dominant big >>>>> dominant point. Especially when you already have an all-world guard who can do most of the same things.

Let me be clear about Bosh, since that is a counterpoint, the guy is high post space creating, stretch big man. LeBron is either stronger or quicker than almost every Power forward in the NBA. His vision could be utilized just as much in the post, as it is up top.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28932 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:56 pm to
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You could make a better argument that he should be playing PG. Just because he can play the 4 does not mean you waste him there.


I agree with this, he would be used much better as a PG. He is one of the best passers in the game. What the Heat really need to be doing is running a pick and roll with LBJ/Wade or LBJ/Bosh all the time.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:58 pm to
Totally agree. The Wade - James pick and roll is damn near impossible to defend.
Posted by Clemens
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:58 pm to
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stronger or quicker than almost every Power forward in the NBA


Yea, okay.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:59 pm to
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He is one of the best passers in the game.


So was Hakeem. You can be a great passer in the post. Again, the guy has been running the offense his entire career.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:01 pm to
You cannot be 6-8 and be considered a dominant big man. He could be effective, for sure, but you can't take the ball away from him and play him at PF full time. It doesnt make sense to do that.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:03 pm to
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Again, the guy has been running the offense his entire career


And he has won 3 of the last 4 MVPs. You don't take that guy and make him an undersized power forward.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28932 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:04 pm to
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The Wade - James pick and roll is damn near impossible to defend.


Sadly, I've seen them use it exactly 1 time in 7 games this postseason, and what do you know, it worked.

I don't know if that is Spolstra's call or what, but they HAVE to run that especially now, when Lebron will be playing alot of the 4 spot until Bosh comes back.
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