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re: Lance Armstrong wants apology from 60 Minutes
Posted on 6/1/11 at 1:25 pm to JG77056
Posted on 6/1/11 at 1:25 pm to JG77056
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which they would be if they lied about lance using PEDs
You don't go to jail for lying to 60 minutes.
I wasn't referring to 60 minutes
the guy 60 minutes interviewed had been forced to give testimony to the feds... so he finally had to come clean about his own drug use and the drug use of others
he seems to have consented to the 60 minutes interview because it will all be public knowledge (esp his testimony and the testimony of others) in the near future anyway
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 1:25 pm to H-Town Tiger
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H-Town Tiger
Has Lance every said flat-out "I never doped" or just his standard "I've never failed a drug test." There's a pretty big distinction in those 2 claims, one that Lance seems to go out of his way to make.
Posted on 6/1/11 at 1:26 pm to H-Town Tiger
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really, an award winning news program on a major network runs a story calling him a cheater and him refuting that with facts makes him a "pathetic" bitch?
He's not refuting it though. He's always been careful not to, and to stick with the "I never failed a test" defense. And he's only wanting an apology for one small specific statement that he says isn't true, about failing a test at the Tour de Suisse. He's not saying anything about all the teammates of his that came out and said he doped.
Posted on 6/1/11 at 1:27 pm to JG77056
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I've got proof. HE WON 7 frickING TOURS DE FRANCE IN A ROW WHILE EVERYBODY ELSE WAS DOPING. That would be like an NFL team winning 7 straight Superbowls with 10 men on the field at all times.
This is what I think. If he beat a bunch of dope up riders 7 straight times while he was clean, that is easily the biggest achievement in sports history. But I tend to believe that Lance, though a great athlete, is still a mere human being.
Posted on 6/1/11 at 4:27 pm to H-Town Tiger
That dude has a huge ball.
Posted on 6/1/11 at 4:43 pm to Dignan
How dare Lance ask that a TV news program not commit libel? If you can't prove your allegation, don't say it. Or at least throw out "allegedly".
Posted on 6/1/11 at 6:12 pm to Baloo
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How dare Lance ask that a TV news program not commit libel?
I could be wrong, but I don't think it technically fits under libel.
Also, they just told 2 sides to the story. 60 Minutes was in contact with Armstrong's camp and asked multiple times, and I think received as well, for responses from Armstrong.
Also, I didn't watch, but did 60 minutes actually say he did it, and not allegedly? I don't mean the guy they interviewed, I mean anyone from the show itself?
Posted on 6/1/11 at 6:29 pm to shel311
quote:Not technically, which is why he isn't suing. He's just asking for an apology. You could go read NY Times v. Sullivan.... but why would you?
I could be wrong, but I don't think it technically fits under libel.
Posted on 6/1/11 at 8:14 pm to Baloo
I would laugh my arse off if he sued. He is guilty as sin of doping during his tour de France run. F him.
Posted on 6/1/11 at 9:50 pm to Athanatos
Lance was a beast. He was tested over and over and never tested positive. Move on.
Posted on 6/1/11 at 10:09 pm to ArkLaTexTiger
Lance's urine samples from the 99 Tour de France tested positive for EPO. The testing for it hadn't developed enough by that time, so it was only tested retroactively.
Posted on 6/1/11 at 10:11 pm to nvasil1
So the only people that have said he cheated have been caught cheating.
Posted on 6/1/11 at 10:14 pm to Athanatos
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I would laugh my arse off if he sued. He is guilty as sin of doping during his tour de France run.
agree
he wants no part of a courtroom... because then he would be called to testify and he could perjure himself
Posted on 6/1/11 at 10:25 pm to molsusports
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he wants no part of a courtroom... because then he would be called to testify and he could perjure himself
Absolutely. Honestly, can his defenders explain why he hasn't taken legal action against anyone if he's been telling the truth all these years?
I mean, he's been questioned and accused on both sides of the Atlantic for a decade. He could've sued someone by now if he really wanted.
Posted on 6/1/11 at 10:50 pm to Baloo
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You could go read NY Times v. Sullivan.... but why would you?
Why wouldn't i, Baloo? I'd love to know.
I'm not sure if I'm completely misinterpreting that line, but it sure seems like you're taking a shot at me for no reason at all.
But whatever.
This post was edited on 6/1/11 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:49 am to LSUlunatic
1) both Landis and Hamilton have already committed perjury, lying about not doing doping themselves.They also couldn't be convicted of perjury unless the prosecution could prove that Armstrong took PEDs and the people who testified under oath otherwise knew He did.
2) i always wondered while these guys are talking about lance using and covering it up, why didn't he ever teach them how? Couldn't landis after years of watching Lance use and somehow avoid detection in the drug tests learned how to themselves?
3)If Hincapie comes out and says he and Armstrong did PEDs then i will believe him. I don't believe the Feds have real evidence or they wouldn't be interviewing anyone who ever saw Lance armstrong ride.
Also Armstrong's camp is pointing out that 60 Minutes reported he tested positive at the Tour de Suisse in 2001 without any evidence, besides questionable testimony.
2) i always wondered while these guys are talking about lance using and covering it up, why didn't he ever teach them how? Couldn't landis after years of watching Lance use and somehow avoid detection in the drug tests learned how to themselves?
3)If Hincapie comes out and says he and Armstrong did PEDs then i will believe him. I don't believe the Feds have real evidence or they wouldn't be interviewing anyone who ever saw Lance armstrong ride.
Also Armstrong's camp is pointing out that 60 Minutes reported he tested positive at the Tour de Suisse in 2001 without any evidence, besides questionable testimony.
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 2:54 am
Posted on 6/2/11 at 5:06 am to Chad504boy
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Lie Strong.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 7:43 am to Chad504boy
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Lie Strong.
And that will be Armstrong's legacy. Spot on.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 7:57 am to JG77056
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The reason he never tested positive is because he always had the new, cutting edge shite that they weren't testing for yet.
They keep he samples so they can test for shite later... fail.
Dude is a complete badass. Some of you should get off your asses and ride a bike.
I guess he was using PED's to beat cancer too. Read a book, he has some rare blood type that slows the lactic acid build up or some shite.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 8:37 am to Jaydeaux
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Dude is a complete badass. Some of you should get off your asses and ride a bike.
No doubt he was a badass. He was an amazing athlete that doped. It's not a big deal. They are all doping at that level.
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