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Lampley: GGG won both fights against Canelo, is a martyr of the arcane structure of boxing

Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33919 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:14 pm
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“A year ago it became clear the two fighters are colossally evenly matched in terms of the technical markers judges look at while scoring. The two judges who scored the first fight responsibly were a round apart, 114-114 and 115-113. Last Saturday night that point was reinforced. Two 115-113s and another 114-114. And through all their painstaking scrutiny the two decisive scorecards gave a tumultuous twelfth round, a very hard round to score, to Canelo Alvarez, making him the official winner. Which reminds us there is no sport in the world whose official structures are more disdained and disrespected by fans than those of boxing. And this becomes another reason why," Lampley said.

“Because while boxing insiders remain imprisoned within the arcane world of governing bodies and title belts and state commissions and official judges and all the technicalities over which they preside, the general public has made a different and far simpler decision. By an overwhelming majority, fans and general media have decided Gennady Golovkin won both fights. They don’t need to confuse themselves with Compubox numbers and round by round scoring and technical analysis. Via the metric of social media, and among themselves on the street, they have spoken loudly again. They like the way Triple G competes. They love the passion his face projects. They are enthralled with his heart.

“When Muhammad Ali was judged the loser in his first fight with Joe Frazier, and lost his unbeaten record as a result, many in my generation were crestfallen. But then we learned something, as Ali’s aura only grew bigger, and Frazier had to deal with the reality that the numbers on the scorecard did nothing to diminish the love the audience felt for their hero.

“Now Triple G is something of a latter day Ali, a global superstar seen as having been twice martyred by the hidebound and impenetrable processes of a sport that can’t get out of its own way. Canelo’s victory, however satisfying at first, will ultimately do little to increase the size or passion of his audience, built in from the start as the result of his favorable cultural perch, as the face of Mexican boxing. But the two decisions which have frustrated Gennady Golovkin have dramatically multiplied the size of Triple G nation, which is now a global cult. You don’t have to win to be the winner. That’s boxing. That’s life.."


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Posted by ROUSTER
Member since Sep 2003
6838 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:16 pm to
Watching that fight, it could have gone either way.
Would love to see #3
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66374 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:25 pm to
my interest in boxing plummets with each passing year. such a rigged, bullshite sport.

get rid of judges and let them fight until someone is KO'd
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:26 pm to
All y'all folks dissatisfied with boxing need to come on over and check out kickboxing.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34581 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:29 pm to
Screw the Ali shite.

Teddy Atlas was saying the other day that the fight was stolen from GGG.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:49 pm to
I was disappointed in two world champ decisions.

I don't expect truth now.

Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6209 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:58 pm to
Fight number 2 was close - I had Canelo by a round.

GGG could not let it get to a decision - he has to be more aggressive at times.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12369 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:46 am to
Agree. Also only agree to a 3rd if outside of Vegas. Unless he truly dominates he's not getting a decision there.
I thought he clearly won the first but I don't think there was a clear winner in the 2nd. Even though I wanted GGG to win, it was too close to call for me. The early rounds cost him a clear victory
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7952 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:53 am to
Most of the fighters and trainers are saying Canelo won the second fight
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12369 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:38 am to
Makes sense. They preach aggressiveness and Canelo was the aggressor. That's part of the problem with the judging system. Each have different ways of judging.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:04 am to
Jim makes a great argument.


A third fight has to be somewhere other than Vegas. GGG can't let it go the distance and now that he's seen the absolute best Canelo has to offer he can gameplan accordingly.

I've never been a Canelo fan but he earned my respect in that fight. Dude has a hell of a chin.
Posted by CLane33
Member since Sep 2016
474 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:31 am to
I think Canelo won the evenly matched rounds with the judges mainly because of his aggression and control of the ring. But, GGG had a couple no doubt rounds that really resonated with fans and makes us feel like he should be the winner.

Fans tend to see the fight as a whole and judges score it round by round.

Bottom line, Canelo probably technically won more rounds but it sure seemed like GGG won the fight based off the dominance of the fewer rounds he won.
Posted by CLane33
Member since Sep 2016
474 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:35 am to
That being said, GGG had to know the fight was close. If he comes out and wins the last round, he wins the fight. Canelo was really good in that last round and GGG couldn’t get it done.
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