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re: Kobe or Lebron rollcall

Posted on 3/8/10 at 10:44 am to
Posted by Enfuego
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 10:44 am to
LBJ
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 10:45 am to
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Kobe's game is truly a thing of beauty...the way he finds shots, can takes over a game, and can be a leader on the floor.


couldn't agree more.

Kobe's game is masterful, his game is an art from years of experience.

Lebron is straight athleticism and power.


and people can argue this all day long, but when all said and done. if/when lebron never gets a ring and time passes. years down the road there won't be any argument here.
This post was edited on 3/8/10 at 10:46 am
Posted by Party At LSU
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 11:26 am to
I hate them both.

Go Magic.
Posted by AlexLSU
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 11:43 am to
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Posted by PortCityTiger24
For a season, LBJ.

For 1 game with everything on the line, Kobe.




this is where I stand now. Lebron has been phenominal this year, but Kobe is still my go-to guy.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 11:55 am to
Kobe,no contest. This shouldn't even be debatable at this point
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 12:01 pm to
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and mistakenly still believe that Kobe is some dominant force.


This can't be serious...
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 12:02 pm to
It is. I guess you can argue semantics, but Kobe isn't what he used to be at this point.
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 12:06 pm to
Lebron.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 12:10 pm to
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regardless of who they play with, who would you rather take a last second shot?


Since Lebron has been in the league he has more clutch game winners than Kobe has in that timespan. This was the case up until possibly the last couple of weeks.

Lebron not being clutch is a huge myth.

Lebron has also played probaby the best overall playoff basketball during the last several years.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 12:12 pm to
until he gets that ring to validate him, he will be looked at just like Peyton was and kinda still is.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 12:26 pm to
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Lebron has also played probaby the best overall playoff basketball during the last several years.


and yet, he's be in the league 8 years now and has no ring to show for it.....so i still take kobe.
Posted by lsutiger2486
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 12:34 pm to
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and yet, he's be in the league 8 years now and has no ring to show for it.....so i still take kobe.


What team has won the NBA championship with such a shitty supporting cast recently.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 12:36 pm to
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Posted by TulaneTigerFan
It is. I guess you can argue semantics, but Kobe isn't what he used to be at this point.




so basically, you don't think Kobe is capable f taking over a game at any point in time? There's a handful of players in the NBA who are dominant, and to say that Kobe isn't one of them comes off as pretty foolish.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 12:46 pm to
He can take over a game, but he isn't nearly as consistently dominant as he once was. He's not out there dominating games night in and night out like it's 2005.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75123 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 12:50 pm to
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What team has won the NBA championship with such a shitty supporting cast recently.


this argument is getting old. i don't want to hear it after this year.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 12:57 pm to
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this argument is getting old. i don't want to hear it after this year.


Well the thing is it is true.
Posted by LSU Red24
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
4769 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 1:12 pm to
That really is the worst argument. I made a point about it earlier. Give Lebron several other good players and he isn't as dominant numbers wise. Stop making that point. And to say Kobe isn't dominant anymore is just ignorant. I'm not even sure how to reply to that
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 1:27 pm to
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That really is the worst argument. I made a point about it earlier. Give Lebron several other good players and he isn't as dominant numbers wise. Stop making that point.


Logic isn't your friend apparently. Lebron has had good players on his team for his two best seasons statistically. His stats aren't going to decrease until he starts to slow down physically.

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And to say Kobe isn't dominant anymore is just ignorant. I'm not even sure how to reply to that


Reading comprehension must not be your friend either. It's relative to the level at which Kobe used to dominate and Lebron currently is. I don't know how anyone can watch Kobe play or look at his numbers and try to argue the contrary.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61036 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 1:48 pm to
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Lebron not being clutch is a huge myth.


Oh, then I must have missed him winning that championship. Care to give me a link?

Oh wait...
Posted by LSU Red24
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
4769 posts
Posted on 3/8/10 at 4:34 pm to
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Logic isn't your friend apparently.


ohh dear. logic isnt MY friend? then why is the argument being made that he both has a good team, and has no surrounding cast? THAT is not physically possible.

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Reading comprehension must not be your friend either. It's relative to the level at which Kobe used to dominate and Lebron currently is. I don't know how anyone can watch Kobe play or look at his numbers and try to argue the contrary.


and comparing Kobe now to Kobe three years ago has literally nothing to do with Lebron James. maybe three years ago Kobe is better than present day Kobe, but i still dont see how that argument has any relevance in the Lebron vs Kobe discussion.
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