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re: Just wondering why CFP committee kept FSU at #4 after qb broke leg

Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:25 am to
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:25 am to
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If they had the opinion that FSU wasn't good enough after going undefeated to play for a national championship then why did they not drop them in the polls before their championship conference game?


History says that the Playoff Committee has always boosted rankings for rival and Championship games. They simply project their favorites and let it roll.

That last Playoff poll is always different because it is the last to give us the BEST teams. FSU got caught up in the numbers.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:35 am to
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Bama hadn’t beaten Georgia
Texas beating an atrocious okie state team just was too much to ignore as well?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:37 am to
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Because like all of us, the Committee thought everything would shake out a certain way until it didn't.
So, what you are saying is, what the committee thought would happen on the field was wrong, but, you think it’s the right idea for the committee to pick the final 4 teams based on what they think will happen


You can’t make this shite up
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:40 am to
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So, what you are saying is, what the committee thought would happen on the field was wrong, but, you think it’s the right idea for the committee to pick the final 4 teams based on what they think will happen


What has right or wrong got to do with it? It's the system we have been living with since 2014.

If only somehow we could have had a 12-team Playoff this year. I wonder why that didn't happen.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:43 am to
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They were trying to avoid controversy and rooting for Louisville to win.


There’s an old saying, “dance with the one you came with.”

Guess the committee has never heard that.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:45 am to
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So, what you are saying is, what the committee thought would happen on the field was wrong, but, you think it’s the right idea for the committee to pick the final 4 teams based on what they think will happen


Logic of the entitled fan base. This is what CFB is and it will only get worse with the expansion to 12 teams.

Now they can get ALL of the media darlings in at the expense of lesser teams.

The fans of the Tier 1 programs can now sit back and enjoy their team losing 3-4 games a year and still be in the hunt.

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You can’t make this shite up


Oh but we can. It seems like an annual tradition now watching the CFB leadership contort itself with a new narrative on how to get Bama or another darling in the playoff.

I also laugh at the SOS argument. Didn't mean a damn thing the years Bama couldn't win the SEC.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:54 am to
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Now they can get ALL of the media darlings in at the expense of lesser teams.


Dude, when the Playoff Committee gets to team #12, in their seeding, they have already gotten down to the lesser teams. Way down.

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The fans of the Tier 1 programs can now sit back and enjoy their team losing 3-4 games a year and still be in the hunt.



That would have even gotten LSU in the last 2 seasons. Times, they are a changin'.

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Oh but we can. It seems like an annual tradition now watching the CFB leadership contort itself with a new narrative on how to get Bama or another darling in the playoff.


With BAMA going to the big dance 8 of the last 10 times, a 4-team playoff has been held, you can pretty much count on it.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:02 am to
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That would have even gotten LSU in the last 2 seasons.


Nope.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:11 am to
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Nope.


You're right. I guess 9-3 doesn't go as far as it used to. LSU could be in trouble then.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:12 am to
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If only somehow we could have had a 12-team Playoff this year. I wonder why that didn't happen.


That is a very convenient excuse to exit the discussion. Why didn't you answer his question?

Why did Texas - who beat up on a crap OSU team - get the benefit of the doubt yet FSU didn't? Are any of you Bama fans able to be objective? Jesus
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:19 am to
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Why did Texas - who beat up on a crap OSU team - get the benefit of the doubt yet FSU didn't? Are any of you Bama fans able to be objective?


No need to sound as if I'm evasive on the subject. I'm happy to answer your inquiry.

Texas got in because BAMA beat the best team in college football in the SECCG. That's all.

I don't think #7 Texas would have jumped #4 FSU otherwise. Meaning, if Georgia beats BAMA BAMA and Texas would have been out.

It was just too hard for the committee to justify BAMA going from #8 to #4 without a one-loss Texas with their best win of the season.

Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:39 am to
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But in the CCG, they sucked, and go pushed down one whole spot, as a result.


Did they suck though? Won more decidedly than bama or Washington did.

You have your third string QB in and the playoffs on the line, play to win the game. Which they did.

They were held to a different standard but never told about it. And for what? For the team with the most playoff appearances to have another shot.

That’s not getting it right.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:42 am to
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Texas got in because BAMA beat the best team in college football in the SECCG. That's all.


They are the 6th best team according to the committee, and ranked behind FSU after accounting for injuries.

That argument doesn’t hold water if trying to claim the committee got it right.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:51 am to
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They are the 6th best team according to the committee, and ranked behind FSU after accounting for injuries.

That argument doesn’t hold water if trying to claim the committee got it right.



History says that the committee has zero interest in correctly seeding anything but the top 4 teams in the Playoff. The rest are just for putting teams together for their bowl season. Enjoy the matchups.
Posted by UnoMe
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:23 am to
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Texas got in because BAMA beat the best team in college football in the SECCG.


I thought the committee job to place the best 4 teams for the playoffs? You just admitted Georgia is the best team. Why weren’t included?
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:25 am to
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I thought the committee job to place the best 4 teams for the playoffs? You just admitted Georgia is the best team. Why weren’t included?




Because there are more than 4 BEST teams.

Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:02 am to
Because that was the easy way out at that time. They were hoping that GA would beat Bama and make their Sunday an easy day. Didn't work out that way.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:43 am to
Serious question would there be more uproar over what transpired or the SEC champion being left out? It is hard to make an argument that having a team that's only loss was in Sept to the #3 team and the champion of the most dominant conference not having a representative in a Playoff for the NC.

Teams in Top 15 AP/Coaches/CFP:
ACC: 1 / 2 / 2
B1G: 3 / 3 / 3
B12: 2 / 2 / 2
IND: 1 / 0 / 0
PAC: 3 / 3 / 3
SEC: 5 / 5 / 5

The ACC and B12 were the weakest two conferences this year. Having their champions both get in over the SEC champion makes zero sense. I believe that FSU absolutely deserved a shot at the playoff, but if we are looking at the conferences as a whole it was either going to be Texas or FSU sitting not getting in. The B1G, PAC, and SEC all had two teams with resumes to get in going into rivalry weekend and both the PAC and SEC teams took care of business turning those CCG into de facto quarterfinal matchups. It was always going to be Michigan, Texas, and FSU playing for the final two spots. This is why it should have always been 6 or more, having 4 with 5 power conferences was dumb from the get to.
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 12:23 pm to
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