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re: June 4th Dark Side of the Ring -Who Killed WCW?
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:39 pm to GoGators1995
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:39 pm to GoGators1995
After watching the first episode... It just reemphasizss what I thought before the show aired and still do.
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Guaranteed contracts, Turner Broadcasting, Hulk Hogan's creative control clause, and the lack of an overall booking/match visionary is what killed WCW...it wasn't one entity or person
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:52 pm to Jack Ruby
WCW dies in 1995 without Hogan. This is made pretty clear in the Nitro book.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:17 pm to GoGators1995
Kevin Sullivan and konnan looked rough.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 7:56 am to WhoGeaux
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The decision to have Goldberg take the title off of Hogan at a soldout Georgia Dome..at a cable tv Nitro event televised on TNT.
I was there
Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:25 am to WhoGeaux
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The decision to have Goldberg take the title off of Hogan at a soldout Georgia Dome..at a cable tv Nitro event televised on TNT.
Except most PPV revenue went to Turner Home Entertainment, not WCW.
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That decision started the descent.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:31 am to tigerfan84
I blame “Above Average” Mike Sanders.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:41 pm to tigerfan84
Who else is watching? I was about to start a thread but I found this. I knew Kevin Nash ended up booking but it's looking like his pilled out arse was more responsible for the downfall of WCW than I ever thought. I know Bret Hart has his fans but Jesus I swear he's going to pop up in his coffin and talk about Goldberg's missed superkick and talk about the dungeon where he learned to be perfect
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:31 pm to Corso
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Kevin Nash
He just said “my paycheck didn’t change” after he screwed up the Goldberg/Hogan situation.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:24 pm to Corso
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Bret Hart has his fans but Jesus I swear he's going to pop up in his coffin and talk about Goldberg's missed superkick and talk about the dungeon
Always found it medically fascinating that Bill Goldberg’s kick gave Brett Hart a stroke. Not a traumatic brain injury or a brain bleed, but Bill Goldberg must have dislodged a friable plaque from Brett’s internal carotid artery with that kick, or maybe Bill Goldberg’s kick sent Hart’s Heart in to atrial fibrillation.
The condescension dripping from Hart every time he refers to Goldberg by his full name of Bill Goldberg humors me.
Is it too late to blame El Dandy for WCW’s death? Although who am I to doubt El Dandy?
Posted on 6/12/24 at 2:49 am to Ric Flair
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The condescension dripping from Hart every time he refers to Goldberg by his full name of Bill Goldberg humors me.
I was only into wrestling during the Monday Night Wars in the late 90s, although I enjoy everything about wrestling. I remember Bret Hart and his glasses from when I was little but good lord he is the most unlikable wrestler I've ever seen interviewed. God bless Owen Hart but dear Bret's own brother almost prevented the Stone Cold era from even happening because he accidentally dropped him on his head with the style of piledriver that was basically banned after he did it. Even tonight Bret said Bill called for the kick and Bret walked into it, and now still brings it up every time he's interviewed because Goldberg didn't eat cat shite in the Canadian dungeon and learn 87 moves like the Hart family did. I learned tonight that Bret looks old as shite, Kevin Nash is probably on fentanyl and possibly was solely responsible for the downfall of WCW, and if not Hulk Hogan's contract helped it go downhill. Vince Russo might be a piece of shite but at least the man tried to bring something different to the game than those guys did. I don't blame Eric Bischoff as much as I did back in the day
Posted on 6/12/24 at 11:02 am to tigerfan84
Well, when you program directly against the other (and stronger) company, there will be a winner and a loser.
Once the NWO had run its course, it was over.
Once the NWO had run its course, it was over.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 12:21 pm to Corso
Another thing is weekly 3 hour Nitro and then Thunder were both forced on them by TBS. So now they've gotta book 5 hours weekly instead of just 2. And around the same time is when WWF got Mike Tyson which was game over.
WCW would've died in 1995 if not for Bischoff and Hogan.
WCW would've died in 1995 if not for Bischoff and Hogan.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 3:10 pm to tigerfan84
Probably a combination of things involving Hogan. The beginning of the slide in 1998 has to be the :championship " match between him and Sting. I really did not follow it much, but I had a friend who loved the gonzo aspect and he talked about how you could tell that night that Sting (Steve Borden) was just kind of going through the motions.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 6:32 pm to KiwiHead
Sting had a major pill problem at the time. That's why he took time off later in 98 and got religious.
Also WCW had their best financial year every in 1998.
Also WCW had their best financial year every in 1998.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:44 pm to Faulk2Tyler
The truth is they went from being a solid wrestling promotion that was enjoyable to watch but Ted turner wanted to compete with wwf and while they had the short boom it was never gonna last with the relative backings of each company. They wcw was going to die no matter what unless maybe if they should kept it like it was in say 1994 where they just knew their position. 1994 spring stampede was fricking solid
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:45 pm to GoGators1995
quote:candidate for most overrated wrestler of all time even. Goldberg too but that steak was legendary
Sting
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:02 pm to JamalMurry27
Everyone at Turner except for Ted hated being associated with rasslin. Especially when Nitro got put on TNT (the "upscale" Turner cable station). USA wasn't nearly as antagonistic to the WWF (a lot of people either forgot or don't know that USA was the original MSG Network and they'd been showing weekly TV for years when Vince Sr was still running things).
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:43 pm to Ric Flair
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Is it too late to blame El Dandy for WCW’s death? Although who am I to doubt El Dandy?
Woah, woah, woah. Lay off El Dandy. He’s a jam up guy.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 10:36 pm to Corso
Was or is still on Fent?
I thought Nash has been big on getting and staing clean and CBD therapy?
I thought Nash has been big on getting and staing clean and CBD therapy?
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