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re: Jeter faking being hit by pitch
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:36 am to tigerguy121
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:36 am to tigerguy121
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I thought you could come to a conclusion on your own opinion on something as trivial as this.
if you think of cheating as a direct rules violation than no it wasn't cheating, because there's no rules against it.
If you think cheating as anything that is morally ambiguous than maybe it was cheating.
don't really care any way.
who was it said that if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying?
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Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:43 am to LSU Fan 90812
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if you think of cheating as a direct rules violation than no it wasn't cheating, because there's no rules against it.
Anyone with ANY common sense knows this is cheating....rules or not.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:46 am to The Eric
The trainer deserves the award. 
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:50 am to LSU Fan 90812
or maybe Jeter doing it classes it up.
I'll go ahead and respect Derek Jeter's opinion of how the game of baseball should be played over any of the posters in this thread.
I'll go ahead and respect Derek Jeter's opinion of how the game of baseball should be played over any of the posters in this thread.
This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 10:51 am
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:51 am to The Eric
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neither does the media but let's be honest. If Alex Rodriguez did that everybody would be eating him alive.
This is absolutely true, and the hypocrisy is hilarious. Say Manny Ramirez did this, the media would be ripping him a new a-hole by now since the media plays favorites. Jeter is one of those that can't do any wrong in the medias eyes, and he's just a professional "doing what he has to do to win", but what would they say if Manny did it?
I personally don't give a shite what Jeter did, or about MLB in general, I just find the medias hypocrisy funny. This can be expanded to the NBA and NFL as well.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:52 am to The Eric
quote:I think the OP nailed it. If this was A-Rod, everyone would freak out, but since it's Captain Clutch, it will get praised.
What say you?
Frankly, I don't care. It's a bit of a bitch move, but it's not against the rules or anything. It has no impact on my opinion of Jeter.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:56 am to lsu480
So if your job requires you to make sales, but your product is not as good or as cheap as your competitor's product, you are going to just not try to sell it and say your competition's is better?
Jeter and baseball player's sales involves getting on base and scoring runs, and that was a chance to make a sale, and he did it. If he does not get on base at a sufficient rate, he doesn't get that next contract similar to if you don't make enough sales, you're getting canned.
Jeter and baseball player's sales involves getting on base and scoring runs, and that was a chance to make a sale, and he did it. If he does not get on base at a sufficient rate, he doesn't get that next contract similar to if you don't make enough sales, you're getting canned.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:00 am to geauxtigs99
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His only job is to get on base. End of story. Part of baseball and has been for a 100 plus yrs.
Ever see a guy in the outfield say no I didn't catch that ump?
So you're ok with flopping in soccer?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:06 am to GeauxDT
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I personally don't give a shite what Jeter did, or about MLB in general, I just find the medias hypocrisy funny. This can be expanded to the NBA and NFL as well.
It is not necessarily hypocritical. Jeter has earned a good reputation, and he gets leeway (rightfully so) from the media. The others, well not so much.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:11 am to AUTigLN11
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So you're ok with flopping in soccer?
being okay with something does not = it being cheating.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:16 am to LSU Fan 90812
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being okay with something does not = it being cheating.
Well are you ok with it?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:20 am to LSU Fan 90812
What Jeter did is no different than a guy stealing a base and being called safe even though he knows he was tagged out. Do you see people go into an outrage when in basketball a ball goes out of bounds and a coach or player points that it's their ball even though they know it was out on them? Players try to influence calls all the time. I don't understand why anyone who's ever played sports would have a problem with what Jeter did.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:31 am to LSU Fan 90812
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being okay with something does not = it being cheating.
Whether either case is "cheating" or not is irrelevant to me. It is a total punk move in either case. So since you have no problem with what Jeter did, what are your thoughts on soccer flops?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:52 pm to AUTigLN11
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So you're ok with flopping in soccer?
Not a huge soccer fan but can't you be carded for it? Which would make flopping illegal in soccer.
So are you ok with a db committing pass interference and not telling the ref about it?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:11 pm to The Eric
It's flopping
I don't like it - even tho it's an established part of more than one sport
I don't like it - even tho it's an established part of more than one sport
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:30 pm to AUTigLN11
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Whether either case is "cheating" or not is irrelevant to me. It is a total punk move in either case. So since you have no problem with what Jeter did, what are your thoughts on soccer flops?
alright, since we're talking about some stupid bullshite fricking punk moves,
maybe your stupid cheater of a defensive back should have admitted that he interfered.
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Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:39 pm to LSU Fan 90812
i'm ok with just about everything except for steroids...
and i thought A-Rod saying mine was a douche move but its part of the game sometimes.
soccer flopping and basketball flopping piss me off alot, but its part of the game, and if my team is up by 1 or 2 with minutes to go and he flops and it gets called I am excited.
i hate soccer flopping because i hate soccer and will look for any reason to not watch it, but i dont think its cheating.
signal stealing is fine but be prepared to get beaned.
and i thought A-Rod saying mine was a douche move but its part of the game sometimes.
soccer flopping and basketball flopping piss me off alot, but its part of the game, and if my team is up by 1 or 2 with minutes to go and he flops and it gets called I am excited.
i hate soccer flopping because i hate soccer and will look for any reason to not watch it, but i dont think its cheating.
signal stealing is fine but be prepared to get beaned.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:15 pm to The Eric
I've been a Yankee fan since I could talk and I was watching the game live. Without studying the replay, it didn't look all that bad for Jeter because I thought that he could have been reacting to the bat vibration and because, to be honest, I wasn't paying attention to the soap opera production scene that followed when the trainer came out and did all the machinations with Jeter's hand (as someone pointed out, the trainer is the one who deserves an award).
But, looking at the video again today, it's much more apparent that Jeter is the one who started playing possum in the first place.
Maybe that's the way baseball is to be played -- or maybe it was just a flop. All I know is I would have never expected that from Jeter.
And, if I were the Rays, there's no way he wouldn't get plunked in the back the very next time we played them. (and, since Maddon got run on account of it, I'll guarantee you Jeter gets hit).
But, looking at the video again today, it's much more apparent that Jeter is the one who started playing possum in the first place.
Maybe that's the way baseball is to be played -- or maybe it was just a flop. All I know is I would have never expected that from Jeter.
And, if I were the Rays, there's no way he wouldn't get plunked in the back the very next time we played them. (and, since Maddon got run on account of it, I'll guarantee you Jeter gets hit).
This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:24 pm to Bullethead88
I've tried to stay out of this one because I'm a little biased, but I don't like it. Jeter IMO has been the epitome of class since he's been in the league. Is it cheating? Nope. If it sort of bush league? Probably, but it happens all the time.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:25 pm to Bullethead88
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Maybe that's the way baseball is to be played -- or maybe it was just a flop. All I know is I would have never expected that from Jeter.
I think that is the big deal. MOST people don't see Jeter as 'that guy' and that's why it is an issue. Like the OP said, if this were Alex, it is par for the course because let's face it, he's a bitch.
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