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re: James Harden wins The Players' NBA MVP award
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:32 am to Epic Cajun
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:32 am to Epic Cajun
quote:More than most, especially the media that covers one team only.
Because, I'm sure the players watch more games than the media, amirite?
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:35 am to Epic Cajun
quote:1. Many of the media members who vote for the award are local media members. Guys who follow 1 specific team. So they are watching the same game the players are playing in.
Because, I'm sure the players watch more games than the media, amirite?
2. Players watch film and understand the game way better than the vast majority of media members. They watch film on players like LeBron, Harden, and Curry, and know their game way better than nearly every media member.
I'd trust Kawhi Leonard to tell me about Harden's game way more than I'd trust Brian Windhorst.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 11:37 am
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:40 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:Except watching film to prepare for a match-up is a lot different and much more specific than watching the same film on an attempt to gain a general sense of a player compared to other players in the league.
Players watch film and understand the game way better than the vast majority of media members. They watch film on players like LeBron, Harden, and Curry, and know their game way better than nearly every media member.
Michael Jordan, for example, could probably break down film very well, but he is a pretty horrible evaluator of general player talent.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:42 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:Sure, but that's not what they are voting on.
I'd trust Kawhi Leonard to tell me about Harden's game way more than I'd trust Brian Windhorst.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:44 am to PrimeTime Money
Kobe is probably so pissed off this didn't happen 15 years ago
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:45 am to PrimeTime Money
Except you won't acknowledge the players not nominating Kawhi as best defender makes this whole thing hilarious
Players don't watch much film at all, especially before the playoffs.
Players don't use advanced stats.
Players don't watch much film at all, especially before the playoffs.
Players don't use advanced stats.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 11:46 am
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:45 am to buckeye_vol
quote:Trying to predict how a player will do at the next level by using a variety of different attributes and metrics is not the same as evaluating a player who is already a proven player in the NBA.
Except watching film to prepare for a match-up is a lot different and much more specific than watching the same film on an attempt to gain a general sense of a player compared to other players in the league.
Michael Jordan, for example, could probably break down film very well, but he is a pretty horrible evaluator of general player talent.
You are comparing apples to oranges.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:47 am to PrimeTime Money
Is that seriously what you think video scouts do?
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 11:48 am
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:47 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:Well MJ hasn't done well with free agents (i.e., proven players) either so it is a fair comparison.
Trying to predict how a player will do at the next level by using a variety of different attributes and metrics is not the same as evaluating a player who is already a proven player in the NBA.
You are comparing apples to oranges.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:48 am to PrimeTime Money
How about a link instead of just pics of Hardens nasty arse beard?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:49 am to RTR America
quote:What did I say that you disagree with?
Is that seriously what you think video scouts do?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:50 am to More beer please
quote:Because it hasn't been announced yet, so there are no stories. Consider this inside information.
How about a link instead of just pics of Hardens nasty arse beard?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:50 am to buckeye_vol
Well Hollinger had a vote when he was a media member and he made a move to acquire Jeff freakin Green last season. So what makes you think media members can identify talent any better than players?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:51 am to PrimeTime Money
Congrats on the pitty award. I'm sure this is a proud day for everyone involved in the Rockets franchise and its fans.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:51 am to PrimeTime Money
he should win the "get to the line 20 times a game on bullshite foul calls" award
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:52 am to PrimeTime Money
I'm trying to figure out what evaluating draft prospects has to do with this
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:52 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
Consider this inside information.
Id rather consider it your usual blowhard Rockets bullshite of the week thread.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:53 am to RTR America
quote:
I'm trying to figure out what evaluating draft prospects has to do with this
You said:
quote:What did I say that scouts don't do?
Is that seriously what you think video scouts do?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:53 am to RTR America
quote:
It is a popularity contest
So it's like the media MVP?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:54 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Well Hollinger had a vote when he was a media member and he made a move to acquire Jeff freakin Green last season. So what makes you think media members can identify talent any better than players?
A) Hollinger didn't make that move; Chris Wallace did
b) he is actually on record as an ESPN writer destroying Jeff Green's game
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